Declassified Documents: Obama’s CIA Inadvertently Armed ISIS

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Government watchdog Judicial Watch published more than 100 pages of formerly classified documents from the U.S. Department of Defense and the State Department.

The CIA (under the Obama administration at the time) carried out a covert program of training and arming Syrian rebels to fight against the Assad regime. As a result of that program, many of those weapons ended up in the hands of ISIS fighters. 

Thenational.ae reports:

On the evening of April 27, a four-wheel drive jeep was speeding along the Zarib road in Western Deraa when an explosion tore it apart, killing its three occupants. One of them was Tayser Al Sharif, a man known to his family and friends as Abu Malik, but renowned throughout southern Syria by the nickname Cheg Cheg.

A major weapons trader, he was a wealthy, mafia-like figure at the heart of a complex, shadowy and contradictory network that linked rebels, spies, smugglers, western governments, ISIL and forces fighting for president Bashar Al Assad.

It was through Cheg Cheg and other gunrunners that weapons supplied by the West and Arab intelligence services inadvertently made their way into the hands of ISIL fighters.

Details of Cheg Cheg’s life and work remain incomplete and impossible to verify. Before his death, rebels familiar with his activities and the weapons trading networks he operated in were reluctant to publicise any of the limited details they did know, fearing it would jeopardise an essential arms supply route. His death removed that inhibition. The following account is based on information supplied over the course of a year by some of the people who knew him, and traded with him.

Cigarette smuggling

Before the Syrian revolution erupted in 2011, Cheg Cheg, a wiry man with a square jaw, distinctive white beard and thick white hair, had operated a small mobile phone shop in Naseeb, 10km south-east of Deraa city. A border town on the main road connecting Amman to Damascus, Naseeb was a haven for smugglers and Cheg Cheg was one of them. He had a side business, illegally running cigarettes between Syria and Jordan.

Such black market trading was dominated by powerful and corrupt secret police agencies, and well-connected regime officials, like Atef Najib, a cousin of president Bashar Al Assad who ran Deraa’s feared political security branch. They could rake in thousands of dollars a day through illegal cross border trades and bribes. In comparison Cheg Cheg was a small-time grafter, supplementing his income with cigarette sales.

It was rampant corruption and abuse of power by men like Najib that ignited the uprising in Deraa on March 18, 2011, and the regime’s brutal crackdown on those peaceful protests – including a tank assault on Deraa in April that year – which drove the country into a civil war, and, later, a wider, regional conflict.

With the spreading violence Cheg Cheg’s fortunes changed dramatically. By 2015 he was the biggest arms dealer in southern Syria; wealthy beyond his wildest dreams and free to live the life of a mafia kingpin, surrounded by bodyguards, throwing extravagant parties, womanising and cheerfully shipping lorry loads of weapons into the combat zone.

Ultimately, his success would also lead to his death, at less than 50 years of age, in what appears to have been an assassination on the Zarib road.

Booming business

Cheg Cheg’s introduction to the world of underground arms trading came through one of his relatives, a man named Abu Barra. Also from Naseeb, Abu Barra became heavily involved in the Free Syrian Army, the loose band of rebels that took up arms to fight the Assad regime. Abu Barra, a relatively wealthy and well-connected man who was known to have strong Islamist leanings, began stockpiling medicines and other supplies, which were distributed to rebels. He soon became involved in procuring weapons, via a contact in the eastern desert province of Deir Ezzor. As the armed rebellion expanded in the second half of 2012, Abu Barra passed the time-consuming and risky business of buying and selling weapons over to Cheg Cheg.

Abu Barra’s endorsement meant the first weapons shipments handed to Cheg Cheg was given on trust, without him having to make any advance payment. That ensured he made a sizeable profit on the deal, money he ploughed back into expanding his operations.

“Weapons dealers from other parts of Syria started to use him as an intermediary; they’d come south to Deraa, Nawa and Naseeb and leave the weapons with Cheg Cheg who acted as their salesman. He’d sell the weapons and when the supplier returned, Cheg Cheg would pay him an amount they had agreed on in advance,” said a rebel who spent time with the arms trader.

Demand for guns and ammunition in the south was high and Cheg Cheg enjoyed brisk trade, selling Russian-made automatic rifles for twice the price he paid to his suppliers.

He was fastidious in paying his own bills, and always ready to extend generous lines of credit to rebel factions who needed bombs and bullets, but who were short on cash. He was, therefore, both the perfect customer and an ideal person to buy from. Business boomed. Then, as money began to flood into southern Syria from government and private donors in the Arabian Gulf, rebels were able to settle their debts to Cheg Cheg, and place new orders with him.

Charismatic liar

By 2013 munitions were flowing more freely into rebel-held parts of Syria, from Iraq, Jordan and Lebanon. Cheg Cheg became the go-to man for anyone wanting to sell weapons in Deraa and the southern provinces. He could often be found in a large, traditional-style tent encampment in northern Jordan, where he would meet Syrian opposition figures and fighters and host parties.

“Cheg Cheg was a liar and a criminal, he was always collecting new girlfriends and ignoring his wife. He was certainly not a pious Muslim, he didn’t have any time for religion,” said one rebel commander who knew him. “But he was also very funny, and charismatic and although he was rich, he didn’t seem to care about money much. It came, and it went with him. He was actually quite well liked, an easy man to deal with in many ways,” the commander said.

At some point in 2013, Jordanian intelligence officers told him to leave and he returned across the border to Deraa province, although rebels said he maintained contacts with Jordan’s security agencies.

Back in southern Syria, Cheg Cheg was plugged into a well-oiled transportation system that moved arms throughout the country. Smugglers welded special containers in the bottom of large lorries, which they would fill with weapons and other contraband. Those containers would then be covered with vegetables and other produce that had to be moved quickly in order not to spoil. That would be the excuse the drivers used to get through regime checkpoints without thorough inspections. If regime soldiers did insist on searching the lorries, the drivers would pay them a bribe to look the other way. Poorly paid rank and file troops, and corrupt officers, would take the money and let the weapons lorries through.

“This happened hundreds and hundreds of times, weapons were coming from everywhere, from inside Syria, Jordan, Iraq, everywhere,” said a rebel commander.

Growing demand

As the war intensified, shortages of food and medicine became more acute, and demand for ammunition and advanced weaponry grew. Under those conditions profits made by smugglers rose dramatically. Food was the least profitable commodity; cigarettes were more valuable and weapons were the most lucrative. A truck loaded with food and with its secret compartments filled with weapons, might cost US$30,000 (Dh110,178) in transportation fees alone, excluding payment for the goods on board. Cheg Cheg could make tens of thousands of dollars in profit with each shipment.

“It wasn’t that he was particularly corrupt, it was just a case of supply and demand; we needed the weapons and he could get them for us. Money wasn’t the issue, we’re fighting a war, so everything gets put into that,” a rebel said.

The next major boost for Cheg Cheg’s business came when western and Arab states began to give more formal, if still highly secretive, backing to rebels, via the Military Operations Command (MOC) centre in Amman. This centre was intended, in part, to regulate the flow of weapons into the south, and to help prevent a repeat of the chaos that had spread in northern and eastern Syria, where ISIL had grown and become entrenched. Funded primarily by the US, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states, and staffed by military officers from those countries, as well as British and Jordanian intelligence, the MOC sought to dominate the supply of arms to moderate rebel groups. A New York Times report recently revealed that a classified operation was run by the CIA under the code name Timber Sycamore.

Groups of moderate rebels received special military training in Jordan or Saudi Arabia, and were supplied with small arms, mortars, large calibre machine gun ammunition, night vision goggles, anti-tank missiles and pickup trucks.

Rather than hurt Cheg Cheg’s business, the involvement of the MOC merely added another source of weaponry for him. MOC-supplied rebels would often sell a portion of the weapons they had been given to Cheg Cheg, to raise cash to pay fighters or to fund purchases of other munitions they lacked. For example, the MOC might provide a rebel faction with mortar bombs, but not give them enough 14.5mm heavy machine gun bullets; if so, they would arrange an exchange with Cheg Cheg.

“Cheg Cheg became a mini-MOC, he was the president of arms dealers,” said a rebel commander. “But he was in many ways better than the real MOC, which was very slow to get us supplies, even if we were in the middle of a battle and couldn’t afford to wait. If you put in an order with Cheg Cheg, he would get you what you needed that day, or the next day, and you’d just pay him back later, when you got more money.”

Bedouin traders

The rapid supply service offered by Cheg Cheg was critical in rebel advances in the south, which saw them push up to the strategic town of Sheikh Miskeen by 2014, and seize control of a major regime military base, Brigade 52, in the summer of 2015.

“Without Cheg Cheg, we would never have made it as far as we have, there are many battles he played an important role,” said a leading rebel logistician.

Cheg Cheg’s connections with other arms dealers in Syria, and the region, meant the MOC-supplied weapons, given to the rebels who then traded with him, could have ended up anywhere in Syria, including with ISIL.

Among Cheg Cheg’s customers were Bedouin traders in Lejat, a barren volcanic plain 40km north-east of Deraa city that opens out into Syria’s ISIL-controlled eastern desert regions. The Bedouin traders, known locally as “The Birds”, had strong, pragmatic business ties with ISIL, acting as intermediaries for weapons purchases. Rebels familiar with the trading network said ISIL would place orders using WhatsApp and the Lejat Bedouin would make the appropriate purchases from Cheg Cheg and other, smaller arms dealers in the south.

“A representative of ISIL would come with a broker from Lejat to see what weapons they needed, they would make the arrangements, the broker would take a fee and help arrange the shipment. From there, there was a supply line running to Hassakeh and Deir Ezzor. There was a triangle, connecting Jordan, Iraq and Syria, where weapons move easily,” said a rebel field commander. The commander described being present for an arms deal in Lejat in the summer of 2015, and seeing missiles traded to a dealer who was working on behalf of ISIL.

While it has not been possible to independently track specific weapons, two well-connected rebel commanders said they were certain MOC materiel had, via Cheg Cheg and the Lejat dealers, ended up with ISIL. Conflict Armament Research, a UK-based weapons monitoring organisation, has found arms supplied by the rebels’ western and Arab backers in ISIL hands.

“Cheg Cheg didn’t trade directly with ISIL, there is no proof that he ever dealt directly with ISIL but we are certain he sold to the people who were supplying ISIL,” said a rebel commander who knew Cheg Cheg. “He did it for the money. He didn’t have to ask where the weapons were going.”

Another rebel field commander said Cheg Cheg knew the weapons were ultimately going to ISIL. “Cheg Cheg didn’t care too much who the buyer was, he just sold,” the commander said.

Customers not enemies

In reality there were, however, limitations on who Cheg Cheg would or could accept as customers. When the Yarmouk Martyrs Brigade and Harakat Al Muthanna, two ISIL-affiliated factions with strong roots in southern Syria, emerged as significant powers, he came under intense pressure from MOC-backed rebels, and regional intelligence services, not to supply them with weapons. Jordan, alarmed at the rise of radical factions on its border, used its connections with Cheg Cheg to tell him, in what rebels said were no uncertain terms, not to trade with ISIL.

Cheg Cheg’s access to weapons had served as a protective shield. Whatever any of the rebel factions thought of him, he was critical in getting arms into the southern Syria and was, therefore, untouchable. “He had no enemies, only customers, he was indispensable to us,” a rebel fighter said. That changed when he began to refuse to sell munitions to the Yarmouk Martyrs Brigade and Harakat Al Muthanna, which, by March 2016, were under assault from the MOC-backed rebels. Cheg Cheg was, in fact, supplying the groups attacking the ISIL affiliates.

That seems to have sealed his fate. The bomb that killed Cheg Cheg appears to have been planted in the road between the villages of Mzeireib and Kharab Al Shahem, and carefully detonated when his jeep passed by. Rebels believe the Yarmouk Martyrs Brigade, which has a reputation for assassinating its opponents, carried out the attack.

Cheg Cheg’s death has dealt a significant blow to rebel factions who now have to deal with multiple, smaller arms dealers in the search for weaponry, a logistical headache they are ill equipped to deal with. In future battles with the regime, they are more likely to have trouble accessing urgent resupplies.

But it will not change the fact Syria is awash with weapons, something Cheg Cheg helped facilitate.

“There are so many guns in Syria now, even babies have them. The first thing a child here learns isn’t to say mummy or daddy; they learn how to load a rifle,” a rebel commander said.

Correction: An earlier version of this article stated that Obama had ordered the CIA to train ISIS. This is an exaggeration of the facts. While it is true that the Obama administration’s overall management did cause weapons to fall into the hands of some ISIS fighters, it isn’t true that he “ordered the CIA to train ISIS.” The headline and article has been updated to reflect this fact.

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  1. “The U.S. intelligence documents not only confirms suspicions that the United States and some of its coalition allies had actually facilitated the rise of the ISIS in Syria – as a counterweight to the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad- but also that ISIS members were initially trained by members and contractors of the Central Intelligence Agency at facilities in Jordan in 2012.”

    So this is it, then. This is the smoking gun. Bush is not responsible for ISIS. Obama is.

    • If you think this way you still don’t get a thing; Obama and Bush are both just puppets of the Military Industrial Complex like every President since JFK!

    • This is all the work of that neo-con PNAC cabal…..google…’The Yinon Plan’ and ‘A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm’

    • pfbonney, this is not by a long shot or any stretch of the imagination a smoking gun that proves President Obama created ISIS as opposed the GWB. The article clearly states that President Obama, and some coalition allies “facilitated” the “rise” of ISIS in “Syria” by supplying them with weapons and training. In other words ISIS already existed and America and it’s allies gave the branch of the organization based in Syria weapons and training (after they were already established) in an effort to further the downfall of the Assad regime. I do understand that republicans don’t need their rhetoric and talking points to make sense in order to believe it and parrot it every chance they get, but your interpretation of this article is just ridiculous.

      • Wrong. When Obama started arming them, ISIS was merely a twinkle in some militant Islamist’s eye! It was via Obama arming and funding a small group of those militants that ISIS came to be the massive entity that we see today. There is a REASON that no on had ever heard of ISIS until three years into Obama’s time in office…they didn’t exist!

        • Wrong, wrong and wrong on so many levels. Just because you’d like to exchange the words rise for formation doesn’t make it a fact. Also it doesn’t alter the fact that the article clearly states that the group America and its allies facilitated was the arm of the ISIS organization that operated out of Syria and not the original group that started in Iraq. That alone is evidence that the original head of the organization existed before America and its allies facilitated the rise/formation of the Syrian arm of the organization. Also just because you say that no one ever heard of ISIS until after three years into President Obama’s initial election does not by any stretch of the imagination make it true. In fact nothing you said proves that President Obama created ISIS intentionally or otherwise. It is apparent that you like many, many other privileged class conservative republicans hate the President most likely because of the color of his skin. ISIS began in Iraq and if GWB hadn’t declared war on Iraq because nine people from Saudi Arabia flew planes into the twin towers in NYC or because of non existent WMD’s ISIS would not have been created in Iraq because the Iraqi President Sadam Husain was against terrorist. Also it has been reported by all major news outlets that ISIS is an offshoot of Al Qater that was formed as a result of the war in Iraq. I understand that you people hate President Obama and why you hate him, but those reasons coupled with your incredible lies will never convince fair and open minded people to jump on your band wagon to hate President Obama.

          • Dear deluded liberal, in military talk the RISE of a NEW group MEANS the formation of a new group! The two are completely interchangeable in civilian speak also. I have no hate at all for Obama, but I have zero respect for him as a leader. Not one of his policies have shown any success. Right now, we are one quarter away from once again slipping back into a recession, when in reality, we have never left the last one! As for you race card….shove it where the sun don’t shine, you deluded liberals have played that one out for a long, LONG time!
            BTW, if by Al Qatar, you mean Al Qaeda, that group was formed in 1988-89 with it’s origination tied to the Soviet war in Afghanistan!

          • However its spelled Mr./Mrs. spell checker is beside the point the point is that ISIS is an offshoot of that organization and not something created by President Obama, as you and other hate consumed bigots love to believe. Apparently it brings you much joy to imply that someone is “playing the race card” which is something only uttered by hate consumed bigots and the fact that you and most other bigots never admit to your bigotry sways no one because actions speak louder than words. You claim that none of President Obama’s policies worked is just ridiculous and is further proof that you and all other ultra conservatives are consumed with a deep seeded hatred of the President and all others who resemble him for no other reason than the color of their skin. The reason Liberals have been referring to ignorant, small minded, hate consumed bigots as ignorant, small minded, hate consumed bigots for a long time is because Ignorant, small minded, hate consumed, bigots have been ignorant, small minded, hate consumed bigots for a long time. in fact the white supremacist system that has controlled America since the inception of this nation and the fact that many, many privileged class people absolutely believe from the bottom of their stone cold bigoted hearts that GOD somehow mysteriously created them better than everyone else in the world is further proof that you people are not only racist but also inherently evil beings who are really the spawn of the devil and the truth is simply not in you.

          • Wow bro u sure talk alot about how republicans are racist but u r filled with hate. I feel sry for u. If u look at every state with the worst poverty an such a big gap between upper and lower class. The one thing they have in common is that liberal hippies are in every appointed posation all the way from the governor down all demacRATS. One more thing for you the kkk was started an run by demacRATS not by republicans. An just by the way u talk it looks like u r the most small minded hate filled bigot out of every other person who has posted in these comments.

          • Why do privileged class bigots always pull “the KKK was started by Liberals and Lincoln was a republican” bullshit out of their asses as if no one is aware of the history of the Dixi-cratic party shift? You have a typical privileged class bigot mentality. Your accusations of me being a bigot for simply pointing out the racist brutal nature of America’s white supremacist system and the brutal, racist nature of privileged class people is ridiculous. Everything you say is suspect, evidenced by your pathological denial of the reality of who and what you people are.

          • Saying that Americans hatred of Obama is because of “the color of his skin,” is a stick your finger down your throat comment. Roughly 80% of the fools that voted for Obama were white! I don’t know any Americans that think God created them better than anyone else in the world. You’re insane.

          • There are huge numbers of Americans who think God created them better than anyone else in the world, especially better than Black people.

          • Not all white people feel that way and bigotry continues because those of other races continue to hold grudges for past wrongs committed hundreds of years ago instead of drawing a line in the sand and moving forward in love and friendship. Things can never get better until there is forgiveness on both sides and we put our differences aside and work together for a common goal.

          • Actually God created all men equal of every race and its man that has twisted and corrupted that which God made beautiful

          • By your own words, you show YOUR bigotry. And if blame needs to be placed, place it on the BHO administration and his media puppets. They have stoked the flames of racism in this country like never before. Now dont come raging back at me, just to prove your ignorance when it is only misplaced allegiance to your brainwashers who gave you your false superiority complex. Im sure you are smart, you just happened to be stripped of it when you got all emotional which led to your liberal controllers taking over. Dont worry, youre not alone.

          • Tariq, it is just wonderful that you love exResident Shitstain so much. I understand why you would love a muzz rat traitor to America.

          • No, the two are not completely interchangeable. One means the creation, the other the coming to prominence.

          • It is complicated. The groups known as The Taliban, Al Qaeda, and the group called ISIL, ISIS, or Daesh have separate structures, but we can be quite certain that they all cooperate closely being Sunni militants.

            We might try learning about why there is so much anger among Muslims. Muslims have felt repression for hundreds of years with most of the Muslim world having been colonized. Most of the colonies were owned by Christian lands with the exception of Turkey’s Ottoman Empire which was secular even though Turkey herself was a Muslim majority country which practiced great religious tolerance. The Colonies owned by the Christian countries experienced repression of non-Christian religions with the attempts to convert Muslims leaving a long-lasting bad taste in the Muslim Mouth.

            I am not Muslim. I am a not-very-religious Jew who believes in tolerance.

            W.

          • you are one ignorant person. they aren’t angry because of oppression. this is islam. this is the koran. this is their 1400 year history. this is their goal. most muslims today are NOT arabs. they are conquered lands that have been converted to islam. you are one dumb dhimmi. islam will never be at peace till the world bows down to allah.

          • The Holy Quran is filled with many contradictions, and Muslims acknowledge this. They believe that the later surahs have a priority over the earlier surahs, and there is a good deal of argument within Islam over some surahs, and about when they were received. Many of the more tolerant statements are from later surahs.

            About Islamic anger: As later as one hundred years ago the only Muslims who lived in a land not a colony were the Turks. When the large-scale colonizers of England and France had to abandon their colonies after WWII they left many lands without an educated cadre to run their countries, and the chaos which followed was predictable.

            It is so easy for christians to behold the mote in the eye of their brother while they ignore the beam in their own eye. It also falls upon a nice Jewish man to remind his Christian friends about this.

            W

          • The Jewish Religion encourages its members to say nicde things about other persons’ religions. The Holy Quran is NOT mine since I am Jewish.
            w.

          • You declare it as “Holy” therefore you defile all that is Holy, do you not?

          • That was a great debate,,both of you are very correct in most points
            The issues are very complex,,I guess it’s how one interprets the information,,,both of you are very smart,,, I believe Obama is a traitor and has committed treason and espionage act against our nation,,,since Obama administration the middle east is a blaze,,failed policies,,was Bush perfect NO,,,,but Bush is a patriot and loves America,,
            Obama is a Muslim sympathizer,,
            Do I know the answer to fix that mess ,,no I do not
            If you step back,,it waa better under the Bush administration,,then Obama,,,,
            But I did enjoy the way you both interpret the information ,,,and I found it very informative,,both views
            God bless our fallen and those who have served

          • Bush was a fucking draft Dodger who didn’t even fulfill his military obligation in the Air National Guard

          • From the time Muhammad started his crazed Fascist Ideology the adherents of this oppressive religion have been murdering and committing atrocities on innocent men, women and children, they only respect strength, being kind to them or trying to appease them is viewed as weakness, will they stop trying to force their ideology on the non-Muslim world?, after almost 1400 years of bloody history I think not, murdering NON-Muslims is part of Islam, violent Jihad is just one way, there are more ways; such as belonging and supporting the rise of the many well financed alphabet Muslim organizations that are in America today. Islam cannot coexist with any form of Democracy, one of the biggest reasons Muslims are a threat to a democratic host country is because Muslims are highly political, this is and has been happening in America using their allies the Liberals, and the Communist party AKA the Democrat party to further their cause at least two Members of Congress are Muslims, one at least used the Qur’an for his oath of office. Liberals are ok with teaching Islam to school children but mention anything Christian to the same children and the ACLU. this organization like the SPLC organization supports anything or anyone anti-Christian and or anti-Constitution.

          • Complete idiocy. They are angry because they are uneducated, inbred vermin, stoked to anger by their sadistic “Holy Men”, who believe they are to conquer the world.

          • Man y r all u libs the same just because i can’t stand NOBAMA just for the fact that he is by far the worst present the USA has ever had makes me a racist right. Thats the first thing every liberal hippie ike yourself go’s to. But it’s ok for u to talk shit on all the black republicans an it’s ok your not racist at all. If rep do it its racist but if libs do its not? Does that sound right to u? O thats right, i forgot that’s the liberal way. An u should look up where isis started buddy. Isis took over all of its ground in Syria then it went into iraq. An i dont what dictionary u use but im pretty sure the word “rise” would mean the start of something. So go do what u liberal hippies do best an go hug some trees.

          • cali, although I would support a Liberal over a racist republican any day I do not claim either political party. The fact that you cant stand President Obama alone does not make you a bigot (I don’t know that you are capable or in a position to be a racist) the fact that you claim that President Obama is the worst President the USA has ever had makes you a liar which leads one to believe that your views are based on his race and that would make you a bigot. As a so called “Black” man it is entirely OK for me to expose the selling out of the so called “Black” community by so called “Black” people for their 30 pieces of silver and/or the fact that they are suffering from the mentally debilitating disease known as self hatred whose symptoms include, but are not limited to an extreme subconscious hatred for him/her self and a blatant hatred for anyone and everyone who slightly resembles him/her all the while proclaiming and displaying an undying and unconditional love for those who hate him/her as much as he/she hates him/her self. Although republicans are “masters” at harboring racist world views and practicing racism and bigotry they do not have a monopoly on it. A Liberal or any other political party affiliate who engages in racist and bigoted activities are just as racist and bigoted as any hard core, right wing, conservative, tea party nut job. I am aware of where ISIS started that’s why I said “The Iraqi faction of ISIS” hence the “rise of the Iraqi faction” meaning ISIS wouldn’t be in Iraq if GWB hadn’t started the un-necessary war in Iraq.

          • Do u agree that racism works both ways and that there are racists and bigots among other cultures other than whites?

          • It’s not because of the color of his skin that people hate Obama because the American people voted him on twice. It’s because of the anti American things he has done since being in officer

          • “Against terrorists!?” Saddam? His whole life was terrorism. He murdered his own people without trial by the tens of thousands. He invaded his neighbors and stole their natural resources. During the original “Gulf War” between Iran and Iraq he forced common office workers to fill the bleachers at a soccer stadium where they had to watch as bus loads of teenagers who didn’t want to go into the army and be mowed down on the swamps by Iranian machine gun fire, chained together and sobbing were mowed down with machine gun fire
            (US News and World Report.) Only a modern left winger could sit at a computer and type with a straight face that Saddam was against terrorism.

          • It doesn’t matter that Obama gave billions in cash to Iran and the Nuke deal, lets not forget the dozens of terrorist he released from Getmo. Every move he made favored Islamic Extremism. You sir like all liberals see conservative values and common sense as some sort of bigotry. I didn’t notice the presidents skin color till you’ll pointed it out. He looked pretty much the white privileged to me. His mom appeared quite white or was she? You liberals claim if someone isn’t kissing Obamas ass they are racists, when that is not even any part of this conversation. It’s just a way to detour from the facts of the content these declassified documents prove. Keep up with the race hating label that belongs too liberals just for continuously keeping it alive and well in your minds eye. Blinded to the fact that your the racist sir!!

        • Thanks for supporting me in my earlier post. About a month ago, I learned that neither Bush nor Obama created ISIS. You may want to bookmark the link, as it resolves the issue once and for all, unless you see something that I don’t. (https://www.corbettreport.com/who-is-isis-an-open-source-investigation/) “The Islamic State has gone through numerous name changes since its founding in Iraq in 1999.” Bush wasn’t even the Republican candidate at that point.

        • Always did wonder when the Standard Supporters of the Obama Presidency started to Spread the News about: all of the American Weapons And Vehicles the abject Iraqi Army left for the ISIS “insurgents.

      • I suppose you are correct, since I’ve learned this since making my post:

        “The Islamic State has gone through numerous name changes since its founding in Iraq in 1999. originally known as Jamāʻat al-Tawḥīd wa-al-Jihād (JTJ), (“The Organization of Monotheism and Jihad”), it changed to Tanẓīm Qāʻidat al-Jihād fī Bilād al-Rāfidayn (“The Organization of Jihad’s Base in the Country of the Two Rivers”) in 2004 after the group swore allegiance to Osama Bin Laden. During this period it was popularly known as Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). In 2006 it became the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), but changed again in 2013 after expanding into Syria. At that point it became Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) or Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS). Its latest moniker, the “Islamic State,” came about after the proclamation of a new caliphate on June 29, 2014.” – “Who Is ISIS? An open source Investigation Corbett • 09/07/2014” (https://www.corbettreport.com/who-is-isis-an-open-source-investigation/)

        I would think this pretty much settles that issue: Neither Bush nor Obama created ISIS.

        But it was Obama who resuscitated the group, after Bush had rendered them down and out.

      • You are so right, actually. Neither Obama NOR Bush created ISIS. As it indicates in the 9/6/2014 article “Who is ISIS? An open source investigation” https://www.corbettreport.com/who-is-isis-an-open-source-investigation/, neither Obama or Bush are responsible for creating ISIS:

        “The Islamic State has gone through numerous name changes since its founding in Iraq in 1999. originally known as Jamāʻat al-Tawḥīd wa-al-Jihād (JTJ), (“The Organization of Monotheism and Jihad”), it changed to Tanẓīm Qāʻidat al-Jihād fī Bilād al-Rāfidayn (“The Organization of Jihad’s Base in the Country of the Two Rivers”) in 2004 after the group swore allegiance to Osama Bin Laden. During this period it was popularly known as Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). In 2006 it became the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), but changed again in 2013 after expanding into Syria. At that point it became Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) or Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS). Its latest moniker, the “Islamic State,” came about after the proclamation of a new caliphate on June 29, 2014.”

        Obama only resuscitated the group after Bush had put it on life support.

      • They gave them weapons and trucks and trained them…but that isn’t enough to explode your resolute love for Obama. F’n dolt.

        • America and her secret agencies have been training and giving weapons to Middle Eastern Muslim groups who subsequently end up being enemies since America started creating conflict in their lands in an effort to steal their resources. But if you need to focus on the specific time when it happened under the Obama administration just understand that people are aware of the fact that that what you’re doing, and calling them names is not going to change it.

          • Sure, America has always created the conflict in Islam, the bloodthirsty cult. F’n liars.

    • This story should be all over the media! People around the world needs to be furious with Obama & Hillary! ISIS is killing innocent people in every country that can get access to! Why is the media quiet? Are they traitors just like Obama, Hillary & Kerry! Obama supply training, money and weapons and gave them to our enemy. Our enemy inturn took what we taught them & gave them & went on a killing spree that has become world wide! This is why Obama & Hillary couldn’t say Radicalized Islamic Muslim, because it is their child! I wonder who in our government is going to have the balls to arrest these people and indict them for treason and terrorism! This has been going viral, and it is not going to stop until our govt does something about this! It isn’t funny that they are ignoring these facts and instead they talk about a Mentally ill Kathy Griffen!

      • Isn’t it incredible that it’s been two years and still there’s been no major news coverage on this? Not even the FNC.

        Why should the media professions be the only ones to be given the only US Constitutional protections if they are not going to run with the important stories that they know about?

  2. “The U.S. intelligence documents not only confirms suspicions that the United States and some of its coalition allies had actually facilitated the rise of the ISIS in Syria – as a counterweight to the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad- but also that ISIS members were initially trained by members and contractors of the Central Intelligence Agency at facilities in Jordan in 2012.”

    So this is it, then. This is the smoking gun. Bush is not responsible for ISIS. Obama is.

    • If you think this way you still don’t get a thing; Obama and Bush are both just puppets of the Military Industrial Complex like every President since JFK!

    • This is all the work of that neo-con PNAC cabal…..google…’The Yinon Plan’ and ‘A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm’

    • pfbonney, this is not by a long shot or any stretch of the imagination a smoking gun that proves President Obama created ISIS as opposed the GWB. The article clearly states that President Obama, and some coalition allies “facilitated” the “rise” of ISIS in “Syria” by supplying them with weapons and training. In other words ISIS already existed and America and it’s allies gave the branch of the organization based in Syria weapons and training (after they were already established) in an effort to further the downfall of the Assad regime. I do understand that republicans don’t need their rhetoric and talking points to make sense in order to believe it and parrot it every chance they get, but your interpretation of this article is just ridiculous.

    • Wrong. When Obama started arming them, ISIS was merely a twinkle in some militant Islamist’s eye! It was via Obama arming and funding a small group of those militants that ISIS came to be the massive entity that we see today. There is a REASON that no one had ever heard of ISIS until three years into Obama’s time in office…they didn’t exist! Substitute the word FORMATION, for the word RISE and you will have the truth of the matter.
      “The U.S. intelligence documents not only confirms suspicions that the United States and some of its coalition allies had actually facilitated the rise of the ISIS in Syria – as a counterweight to the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad- but also that ISIS members were initially trained by members and contractors of the Central Intelligence Agency at facilities in Jordan in 2012.”
      If you read the whole paragraph, you discover that not only did the US facilitate the ‘rise’ (meaning formation) of ISIS, the Obama administration put our CIA in charge of their initial military training at our own facilities in Jordan IN 2012….long after Bush was out of office!

    • Wrong, wrong and wrong on so many levels. Just because you’d like to exchange the words rise for formation doesn’t make it a fact. Also it doesn’t alter the fact that the article clearly states that the group America and its allies facilitated was the arm of the ISIS organization that operated out of Syria and not the original group that started in Iraq. That alone is evidence that the original head of the organization existed before America and its allies facilitated the rise/formation of the Syrian arm of the organization. Also just because you say that no one ever heard of ISIS until after three years into President Obama’s initial election does not by any stretch of the imagination make it true. In fact nothing you said proves that President Obama created ISIS intentionally or otherwise. It is apparent that you like many, many other privileged class conservative republicans hate the President most likely because of the color of his skin. ISIS began in Iraq and if GWB hadn’t declared war on Iraq because nine people from Saudi Arabia flew planes into the twin towers in NYC or because of non existent WMD’s ISIS would not have been created in Iraq because the Iraqi President Sadam Husain was against terrorist. Also it has been reported by all major news outlets that ISIS is an offshoot of Al Qater that was formed as a result of the war in Iraq. I understand that you people hate President Obama and why you hate him, but those reasons coupled with your incredible lies will never convince fair and open minded people to jump on your band wagon to hate President Obama.

    • Dear deluded liberal, in military talk the RISE of a NEW group MEANS the formation of a new group! The two are completely interchangeable in civilian speak also. I have no hate at all for Obama, but I have zero respect for him as a leader. Not one of his policies have shown any success. Right now, we are one quarter away from once again slipping back into a recession, when in reality, we have never left the last one! As for you race card….shove it where the sun don’t shine, you deluded liberals have played that one out for a long, LONG time!
      BTW, if by Al Qatar, you mean Al Qaeda, that group was formed in 1988-89 with it’s origination tied to the Soviet war in Afghanistan!

    • However its spelled Mr./Mrs. spell checker is beside the point the point is that ISIS is an offshoot of that organization and not something created by President Obama, as you and other hate consumed bigots love to believe. Apparently it brings you much joy to imply that someone is “playing the race card” which is something only uttered by hate consumed bigots and the fact that you and most other bigots never admit to your bigotry sways no one because actions speak louder than words. You claim that none of President Obama’s policies worked is just ridiculous and is further proof that you and all other ultra conservatives are consumed with a deep seeded hatred of the President and all others who resemble him for no other reason than the color of their skin. The reason Liberals have been referring to ignorant, small minded, hate consumed bigots as ignorant, small minded, hate consumed bigots for a long time is because Ignorant, small minded, hate consumed, bigots have been ignorant, small minded, hate consumed bigots for a long time. in fact the white supremacist system that has controlled America since the inception of this nation and the fact that many, many privileged class people absolutely believe from the bottom of their stone cold bigoted hearts that GOD somehow mysteriously created them better than everyone else in the world is further proof that you people are not only racist but also inherently evil beings who are really the spawn of the devil and the truth is simply not in you.

    • Man y r all u libs the same just because i can’t stand NOBAMA just for the fact that he is by far the worst present the USA has ever had makes me a racist right. Thats the first thing every liberal hippie ike yourself go’s to. But it’s ok for u to talk shit on all the black republicans an it’s ok your not racist at all. If rep do it its racist but if libs do its not? Does that sound right to u? O thats right, i forgot that’s the liberal way. An u should look up where isis started buddy. Isis took over all of its ground in Syria then it went into iraq. An i dont what dictionary u use but im pretty sure the word “rise” would mean the start of something. So go do what u liberal hippies do best an go hug some trees.

    • Wow bro u sure talk alot about how republicans are racist but u r filled with hate. I feel sry for u. If u look at every state with the worst poverty an such a big gap between upper and lower class. The one thing they have in common is that liberal hippies are in every appointed posation all the way from the governor down all demacRATS. One more thing for you the kkk was started an run by demacRATS not by republicans. An just by the way u talk it looks like u r the most small minded hate filled bigot out of every other person who has posted in these comments.

    • While Obama is not responsible for having created ISIS (nor is Bush), Obama is responsible for getting them off life support.

      “The Islamic State has gone through numerous name changes since its founding in Iraq in 1999. originally known as Jamāʻat al-Tawḥīd wa-al-Jihād (JTJ), (“The Organization of Monotheism and Jihad”), it changed to Tanẓīm Qāʻidat al-Jihād fī Bilād al-Rāfidayn (“The Organization of Jihad’s Base in the Country of the Two Rivers”) in 2004 after the group swore allegiance to Osama Bin Laden. During this period it was popularly known as Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). In 2006 it became the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), but changed again in 2013 after expanding into Syria. At that point it became Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) or Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS). Its latest moniker, the “Islamic State,” came about after the proclamation of a new caliphate on June 29, 2014.” – “Who Is ISIS? An open source Investigation Corbett • 09/07/2014” (https://www.corbettreport.com/who-is-isis-an-open-source-investigation/)

      I would think this pretty much settles the issue as to who created them: Neither Bush NOR Obama created ISIS.

      But, as this article shows, it was Obama who resuscitated the group, after Bush had rendered them down and out.

    • Thanks for supporting me in my earlier post.

      About a month ago, I learned that neither Bush nor Obama created ISIS. You may want to bookmark the link, as it resolves the issue once and for all, unless you see something that I don’t. (https://www.corbettreport.com/who-is-isis-an-open-source-investigation/) “The Islamic State has gone through numerous name changes since its founding in Iraq in 1999.” Bush wasn’t even the Republican candidate at that point.

    • Sounds like standard conspiracy theory fare to me. By Jew haters. So far, it looks like ISIS is beating Israel, to me. Assuming there was any truth to it any way.

    • Why do privileged class bigots always pull “the KKK was started by Liberals and Lincoln was a republican” bullshit out of their asses as if no one is aware of the history of the Dixi-cratic party shift? You have a typical privileged class bigot mentality. Your accusations of me being a bigot for simply pointing out the racist brutal nature of America’s white supremacist system and the brutal, racist nature of privileged class people is ridiculous. Everything you say is suspect, evidenced by your pathological denial of the reality of who and what you people are.

    • cali, although I would support a Liberal over a racist republican any day I do not claim either political party. The fact that you cant stand President Obama alone does not make you a bigot (I don’t know that you are capable or in a position to be a racist) the fact that you claim that President Obama is the worst President the USA has ever had makes you a liar which leads one to believe that your views are based on his race and that would make you a bigot. As a so called “Black” man it is entirely OK for me to expose the selling out of the so called “Black” community by so called “Black” people for their 30 pieces of silver and/or the fact that they are suffering from the mentally debilitating disease known as self hatred whose symptoms include, but are not limited to an extreme subconscious hatred for him/her self and a blatant hatred for anyone and everyone who slightly resembles him/her all the while proclaiming and displaying an undying and unconditional love for those who hate him/her as much as he/she hates him/her self. Although republicans are “masters” at harboring racist world views and practicing racism and bigotry they do not have a monopoly on it. A Liberal or any other political party affiliate who engages in racist and bigoted activities are just as racist and bigoted as any hard core, right wing, conservative, tea party nut job. I am aware of where ISIS started that’s why I said “The Iraqi faction of ISIS” hence the “rise of the Iraqi faction” meaning ISIS wouldn’t be in Iraq if GWB hadn’t started the un-necessary war in Iraq.

    • Saying that Americans hatred of Obama is because of “the color of his skin,” is a stick your finger down your throat comment. Roughly 80% of the fools that voted for Obama were white! I don’t know any Americans that think God created them better than anyone else in the world. You’re insane.

    • UNCONFIRMED website? “https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/”. Looks like a confirmed website to me. What is this, if it is not a confirmed website? It certainly looks to be written in HTML.

      Now, “stupid”? That is certainly a subjective assessment. I’ll let you have your own opinion.

      But as to the facts of the matter – let’s stick with those.

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      “2012 Classified U.S. Report: ISIS Must Rise To Power”

      https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/2012-classified-u-s-report-isis-must-rise-to-power/

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      “Newly-Declassified U.S. Government Documents: The West Supported the Creation of ISIS
      “Posted on May 24, 2015”

      http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/newly-declassified-u-s-government-documents-the-west-supported-the-creation-of-isis.html

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      “Obama ordered CIA to train ISIS jihadists: Declassified documents
      “May 26, 2015 9:27 PM MST”

      http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-ordered-cia-to-train-isis-jihadists-declassified-documents

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      Declassified DIA documents reveal Obama administration ordered CIA to train ISIS

      http://www.examiner.com/article/declassified-dia-documents-reveal-obama-administration-ordered-cia-to-train-isis

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      May 29, 2015

      “US-trained rebels in Syria have defied their Pentagon-funded programme by pledging to fight against Assad regime troops.

      “Division 30, the first rebel faction to incorporate graduates of a US-led training programme, released a statement on Tuesday in which it promised to fight Syrian president Bashar al-Assad – something Washington had tried to prevent.”

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11784872/US-trained-Syrian-rebels-say-they-wont-fight-al-Qaeda-affiliate-Jabhat-al-Nusra.html

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      “Obama Spends Six Hundred And Sixty Six Thousand Tax Dollars On Each Muslim Who Ended Up Supporting Terrorists”

      by Ted on August 23, 2015

      http://shoebat.com/2015/08/23/obama-spends-six-hundred-and-sixty-six-thousand-tax-dollars-on-each-muslim-who-ended-up-supporting-terrorists/

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      And if none of that is clear enough, here’s the confirmation from the former Defense Intelligence Agency head, Michael Flynn, himself, as reported by the Levant Report:

      “In Al Jazeera’s latest Head to Head episode, former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Michael Flynn confirms to Mehdi Hasan that not only had he studied the DIA memo predicting the West’s backing of an Islamic State in Syria when it came across his desk in 2012, but even asserts that the White House’s sponsoring of radical jihadists (that would emerge as ISIL and Nusra) against the Syrian regime was “a willful decision.”

      “Amazingly, Flynn actually took issue with the way interviewer Mehdi Hasan posed the question—Flynn seemed to want to make it clear that the policies that led to the rise of ISIL were not merely the result of ignorance or looking the other way, but the result of conscious decision making:

      “Hasan: You are basically saying that even in government at the time you knew these groups were around, you saw this analysis, and you were arguing against it, but who wasn’t listening?

      “Flynn: I think the administration.

      “Hasan: So the administration turned a blind eye to your analysis?

      “Flynn: I don’t know that they turned a blind eye, I think it was a decision. I think it was a willful decision.

      “Hasan: A willful decision to support an insurgency that had Salafists, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood?

      “Flynn: It was a willful decision to do what they’re doing.”

      http://levantreport.com/2015/08/06/former-dia-chief-michael-flynn-says-rise-of-islamic-state-was-a-willful-decision-and-defends-accuracy-of-2012-memo/

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      So there you have it. This is all old news. Where have you been? You must watch the MSM. You need to watch the FNC.

      PS I was just checking out your profile. You are really angry at the whole world, and, all the time, from the looks of it.

    • There are huge numbers of Americans who think God created them better than anyone else in the world, especially better than Black people.

    • It is complicated. The groups known as The Taliban, Al Qaeda, and the group called ISIL, ISIS, or Daesh have separate structures, but we can be quite certain that they all cooperate closely being Sunni militants.

      We might try learning about why there is so much anger among Muslims. Muslims have felt repression for hundreds of years with most of the Muslim world having been colonized. Most of the colonies were owned by Christian lands with the exception of Turkey’s Ottoman Empire which was secular even though Turkey herself was a Muslim majority country which practiced great religious tolerance. The Colonies owned by the Christian countries experienced repression of non-Christian religions with the attempts to convert Muslims leaving a long-lasting bad taste in the Muslim Mouth.

      I am not Muslim. I am a not-very-religious Jew who believes in tolerance.

      W.

    • It’s not because of the color of his skin that people dislike Obama because the American people voted him in office twice. It’s because of the anti American things he has done since being in office

    • Actually God created all men equal of every race and its man under satans deception that has twisted and corrupted that which God made beautiful. Man is evil and through his bickering, greed and hatred will destroy himself

    • Not all white people feel that way and bigotry continues because those of other races continue to hold grudges for past wrongs committed hundreds of years ago instead of drawing a line in the sand and moving forward in love and friendship. Things can never get better until there is forgiveness on both sides and we put our differences aside and work together for a common goal.

    • Do u agree that racism works both ways and that there are racists and bigots among other cultures other than whites?

    • that is the silliest thing i have heard in some time – ever hear of the kkk? the nazis? look – here are some in your own government!

    • They gave them weapons and trucks and trained them…but that isn’t enough to explode your resolute love for Obama. F’n dolt.

    • you are one ignorant person. they aren’t angry because of oppression. this is islam. this is the koran. this is their 1400 year history. this is their goal. most muslims today are NOT arabs. they are conquered lands that have been converted to islam. you are one dumb dhimmi. islam will never be at peace till the world bows down to allah.

    • America and her secret agencies have been training and giving weapons to Middle Eastern Muslim groups who subsequently end up being enemies since America started creating conflict in their lands in an effort to steal their resources. But if you need to focus on the specific time when it happened under the Obama administration just understand that people are aware of the fact that that what you’re doing, and calling them names is not going to change it.

    • The Holy Quran is filled with many contradictions, and Muslims acknowledge this. They believe that the later surahs have a priority over the earlier surahs, and there is a good deal of argument within Islam over some surahs, and about when they were received. Many of the more tolerant statements are from later surahs.

      About Islamic anger: As later as one hundred years ago the only Muslims who lived in a land not a colony were the Turks. When the large-scale colonizers of England and France had to abandon their colonies after WWII they left many lands without an educated cadre to run their countries, and the chaos which followed was predictable.

      It is so easy for christians to behold the mote in the eye of their brother while they ignore the beam in their own eye. It also falls upon a nice Jewish man to remind his Christian friends about this.

      W

    • Sure, America has always created the conflict in Islam, the bloodthirsty cult. F’n liars.

    • The Jewish Religion encourages its members to say nicde things about other persons’ religions. The Holy Quran is NOT mine since I am Jewish.
      w.

  3. So what America and it’s allies gave weapons and training to the Syrian based ISIS organization to further the downfall of the Assad regime. Apparently they all believed the move was in the best interest of their individual countries national security. Although there is no doubt that ridiculous republicans will attempt to interpret this to mean that President Obama, created ISIS as opposed to Bush, Chany regime.

    • So Bush ‘created’ ISIS, yet no one had ever heard of them until three years into Obama’s time in office….interesting delusions you liberals live under!

      • Just because and other hate consumed republicans say that does make it true. If anyone is delusional it is ignorant, small minded, hate consumed conservatives who just make up shit to fit their racist world views. I never said that GWB created ISIS. I said that ISIS may not have been created had GWB not waged an un-necessary war on Iraq. Please get your facts straight before you post your nonsense. Although I am well aware of the fact that ignorant, small minded, hate consumed conservative republicans have absolutely no use for the truth, facts or even common sense when it comes time to spew their evil, ignorant, small minded, hate consumed BS.

        • “Although there is no doubt that ridiculous republicans will attempt to interpret this to mean that President Obama, created ISIS a opposed to Bush, Cheney regime.”
          Sorry delusional little liberal, but you did indeed say that the Bush Cheney regime created ISIS. Iraq was no only under control, but H Clinton, Obama and Biden all declared that Iraq’s success might end up being one of the Obama administrations largest success’s. Instead, and as predicted by Bush, Cheney and multiple military officials, it led to the creation of a new group of Islamic radicals, uniting many of the previous groups, under the name of ISIS. This occurred well into Obama’s administration and can be laid directly at his feet. One cannot simply withdraw all troops from a war zone and expect good things to happen. And even worse, by not following US military protocol and destroying equipment left behind, Obama left ISIS a wealth of US Humvee’s, weapons and ammunition.

          • Sorry Falling 321, like I said before, all these groups were suppressed and controlled by Sadam. When Bush and Cheney went in, against all military, diplomatic, and intelligence advice, making up his own information and reasons, this led to the Sheit majority taking over and retaliating for years of suppression. This, without the military and totalitarian restraints from Sadams regime, led naturally to the Sunnis feeling repressed, and a merging of various Sunni groups getting together. So yes, it IS the fault of Bush and Cheney. iSIL is mostly made up of a very strict Sunni sect, and are not supported by all Sunnis, but there are some who feel that they are better then the current Sheit government.

          • Falling 321, you can dress it up any way you like but nothing can change the fact that if GWB had not lied the nation into an illegal and un-necessary war with Iraq there would be no terrorist in Iraq today. And if you are going to accuse the President of something at least present the facts. (On the other hand I am well aware of the fact that republicans have absolutely no use for the truth, facts or even common sense when it come to spewing their negative and hate consumed rhetoric) The fact of the matter is that President Obama tried to keep a significantly large amount of troops in Iraq after the war was officially ended, but the President of Iraq (Al – Maliki) insisted that if any American troops remained in Iraq that they had to be subjected to Iraqi law meaning if and when any American servicemen is accused of committing a crime they would be charged and tried under Iraqi law in Iraqi courts. At that point the war was over Iraq was a sovereign nation and international law dictates that President Al – Maliki had the right to set the conditions regarding troop deployment as well as all other matters concerning Iraq. Under those circumstances no American President would ever agree to those terms, that would be a gross dereliction of duty.

          • #tariq it was proved that the WMD’s were shipped to syria and iran. There were some found still in iraq. I know that it is not the popular thing to say (we should of never been there in the first place) but these are the facts. There are some with the cash to pay the media to keep repeating a lie enough so people believe it to be the truth. Field Marshall Goebels would be proud

          • Robert Nather, when the hell was that proven, why isn’t Fux Noise blasting that news across the airwaves on a 24/7 loop? If you actually believe that nonsense you posted then you fit snuggly into the category of right wing nut job.

          • “GWB had not lied the nation into an illegal and un-necessary war with Iraq there would be no terrorist in Iraq today.”

            Bush had never lied, and no person has ever shown that even now, 12 years later. For him to have lied, he would have had intent to deceive. No one has ever shown that. And as I have shown above, ISIS was founded in 1999, before Bush was even the Republican presidential candidate.

          • pfbonney, if you truly believe the Bush administration did not deceive the nation including both houses of legislature then “proof of intent” nor any amount of discussion will ever allow you to see the light. My main point was that ISIS was not created by the actions of President Obama. If ISIS was funded in 1999 before Bush was even a republican presidential candidate how in hell could President Obama have created them?

          • Obama could not have. Obama just brought them back off life support.

            In my original assertion, I posted “So this is it, then. This is the smoking gun. Bush is not responsible for ISIS. Obama is.”

            While neither Obama nor Bush is responsible for creating ISIS, this article proves (or rather, the article linked FROM this article, referencing the FOIA text that Judicial Watch obtained, proves) how Obama brought them back from the edge.

            Bush had, essentially, killed them off, “The most solid confirmations of the military success in Iraq were the intercepted messages from Al Qaeda operatives in Iraq to their leaders in Pakistan that there was no point sending more insurgents, because they now had no chance of prevailing against American forces. This was the situation that Barack Obama inherited — and lost.” – http://freedomsback.com/thomas-sowell/who-lost-iraq/. Also:

            “During George W. Bush’s last month in office, thirty-one Americans had died in Iraq and Afghanistan. By June, the month of Obama’s infamous Cairo speech, that number had climbed to forty. And by that same time next year, it was at sixty-eight.

            “When Bush left office at the end of his second term, the region was mostly stable aside from Iran’s nuclear program. By the time Obama
            had finished his first term, it was in a state of endless war.

            “It is still in a state of war today.” – http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/222274/obamas-mideast-nightmare-daniel-greenfield

            So Bush had knocked them out, Obama brought them back.

            And as far as the WMD is concerned, John Kerry sat on the Senate Intelligence Committee and saw the same intelligence that Bush saw. So if Bush had intent to deceive, then John Kerry must have, too, or he should have come clean when there was still time, and not wait until we were already committed. Even today, Kerry acts like he never saw that Intel. While there is certainly some intel “For the Presidents eyes only” (And there is a great book on the history of intel of that same name), information such as this, where the nation is going to war, Congressional intel committees would have seen everything that Bush mentioned about WMDs, the yellow-cake uranium, and all of that stuff.

          • Everything you said is total hogwash. When Bush left office the region was mostly stable? If you actually believe a fraction of the BS you posted you would have to be the most ignorant person in the world or you are just a typical willfully ignorant privileged class person. Either way is not a ringing endorsement on your part.

          • You’re blustering.

            You have no proof that I am wrong, or you would have provided it already. I have provided actual links to my source material. You have provided absolutely nothing beyond mere wishful thinking.

          • pfbonny I have no proof of what? I said that President Obama did not create ISIS in Iraq or anywhere else and you proved my point when you posted that ISIS was created before GWB was elected President which of course is dubious but at the very least it did prove my point. Then you want to change the discussion to something else in the ninth inning and claim that I’m blustering. That’s a typical republican strategy, when you cant dispute the facts create a straw man argument and pretend that is what the discussion was all about in the first place. The link to an article by a ridiculous right wing rag called “freedoms back” that you supplied is not by any stretch of the imagination proof of anything you said, Its nothing more than the opinion of a right wing nut job with a platform to stand on and isn’t worth a shit. The notion that the terrorist told their bosses don’t send help because the Americans are just going to kick our asses even more is suspect at best. There was a very good and very important reason that President Obama didn’t leave major forces in Iraq at the official ending of the war. President Al Maliki, the President of Iraq insisted that any residual American forces left in Iraq would be subject to Iraqi law and tried in Iraqi courts. Which of course no President of any nation would agree to those conditions because it would be a gross dereliction of duty on that President’s part. You don’t have any smoking gun here, you don’t even have a rubber band that was connected to a sling shot. You have nothing but your hatred for President Obama and your right wing republican, Fux Noise talking points, non of which holds any water.

          • Nothing but hot air. Here’s even more proof that Obama resuscitated ISIS from the near dead:

            https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/2012-classified-u-s-report-isis-must-rise-to-power/

            And, the confirmation:

            http://levantreport.com/2015/08/06/former-dia-chief-michael-flynn-says-rise-of-islamic-state-was-a-willful-decision-and-defends-accuracy-of-2012-memo/

            Btw, I don’t watch the FNC (but maybe you should) nor listen to Rush. I get plenty of news here on the World Wide Web.

            And below is al Baghdadi’s CIA badge, something that couldn’t have happened had Obama not approved it:

          • heedless of who created ISIS, THE ISSUE ACCORDING TO THE DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS IS……..OBAMA ALONG WITH THE EU, SENT WEAPONS TO SYRIA VIA BENGHAZI TO ISIS, WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS TO TRAIN THEM……….OBAMA IS RESPONSIBLE PERIOD!!!!! TREASON

          • If that makes you happy, then by all means do with that. It really doesnt matter to me one way or the other.

          • Regardless of any of that ISIS would not have formed in Iraq if Shrub/Bush would not have lied America into that unnecessary Iraq war.

        • Name calling, tisk tisk. You are a loser. You are brainwashed to believe islam is a religion of peace, as Obama calls IT. It is nothing more than a death cult, soon to be expunged.

      • The more radical groups were supresed and kept in check by Sadam Husan and his party. One of the good things about being a dictator, you get to do that. Plus, ISIL came out of Syria not Iraq. Sadam was a Sunni, Dominating a Sheit majority, and was able to control the minority Sunnis as well. In the case of Syria, you have a minor Sheit sect, dominating a Sunni majority. And for anyone wondering why this country and others seem to be propping up and supporting totalitarian regimes, that is why. Sometimes they support one evil, for fear of another. A lot of these countries have always been ruled by dictators or a monarch. Remove them in the name of “Democracy”, and it will result in a new tyrant. For all of its good points, Democracy is not very efficient. And whenever people feel they need to get things done fast, and/or they feel that ” We can do a much better job ” you have tyrants trying to take over. For all the problems and injustice of totalitarian regimes, they are at least efficient, usually stable, and most of the time predictable. But if you have one group dominating another, and you remove the power over them, you wind up with retaliation, as you see in Iraq, and will likely see with ISIL.

      • Just because you and other bigoted conservatives say that nobody knew or ever heard of ISIS doesn’t by any stretch of the imagination make it true. If anyone is delusional it is the people who believe with every fiber of their being that GOD somehow mysteriously created them “better” than everyone else in the world.

      • By extension the Bush administration created ISIS because ISIS began in Iraq after the fall of the Husain regime which was the results of the illegal, un-necessary Iraqi war that the Bush administration lied America into.

        • ISIS was created in 1999. Bush didn’t enter office until 2001. The Hussein regime didn’t fall until 2003. How could have Bush created ISIS?

    • What business is it of USA to get rid of Assad. Perhaps you need to talk to a Syrian about this .. Assad has a 85% + approval rating … Syrians are also well aware that Corporation USA is there for Oil and Gaz and Military Industrial profits .. ISIS is a bunch of western backed mercanaries .. How anyone can believe this is in the best interest of any countries national security .. including your own .. has the brains of a rocking horse.

      • Lesa Lal for one I never said that it is in the best interest anyone’s national security. what I said was the President and America’s allies “say” that it is in the best interest of their national security. I am not in any way justifying their actions I simply relayed that information to whoever it was I was replying to so please do attribute to me something I didn’t say, in other words don’t put words in my mouth. People who criticize others for something they didn’t do has the brains of a bag of rocks.

        • My apologies .. Have met so many people who believe in the mainstream propaganda regarding Assad as well as other trumped up lies … that have created a very unstable world and caused much trauma around the globe I jumped to conclusions.

        • Good catch, muckeypuck!

          In Vietnam, we were really after minerals, and the war was nothing to do with keeping South Vietnam free, according to the progressives. I’m 56 years old, and to this day, I’ve never heard of Vietnam having ANY amount of minerals, much less, enough to wage war over. Unless someone considers mud to be a mineral of value.

      • Where is the Corporation USA in Syria? WHO are they?

        ” ISIS is a bunch of western backed mercanaries”. Name names.

      • Lisa lal I am lmao at your typical republican strategy of creating a straw man argument, where you put words in my mouth then argue against those words that you falsely attribute to me. I said that America and the others who contributed to and assisted in the training of ISIS apparently did it because of national security concerns. Never once did I say anything faintly resembling “I” think or believe they did it for reasons of national security. So nice try, but no cigar.

    • You piece of fucking dog shit! This proves the u.s helped create isis if this is not clear enough for you read again. U.S is corrupt as shit. Thanks to this the middle east is in chaos!

      • It did not. Go to the article “Who Is ISIS? An open source investigation Corbett • 09/07/2014” at the webpage https://www.corbettreport.com/who-is-isis-an-open-source-investigation/.

        If you don’t want to bother going there, here’s a cut-and-paste from it:

        “The Islamic State has gone through numerous name changes since its founding in Iraq in 1999. originally known as Jamāʻat al-Tawḥīd wa-al-Jihād (JTJ), (“The Organization of Monotheism and Jihad”), it changed to Tanẓīm Qāʻidat al-Jihād fī Bilād al-Rāfidayn (“The Organization of Jihad’s Base in the Country of the Two Rivers”) in 2004 after the group swore allegiance to Osama Bin Laden. During this period it was popularly known as Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). In 2006 it became the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), but changed again in 2013 after expanding into Syria. At that point it became Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) or Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS). Its latest moniker, the “Islamic State,” came about
        after the proclamation of a new caliphate on June 29, 2014.”

        The US, under Obama, did resuscitate it, though, as the above linked article shows, after Bush had rendered unconscious/on life support, basically.

  4. So what America and it’s allies gave weapons and training to the Syrian based ISIS organization to further the downfall of the Assad regime. Apparently they all believed the move was in the best interest of their individual countries national security. Although there is no doubt that ridiculous republicans will attempt to interpret this to mean that President Obama, created ISIS as opposed to Bush, Chany regime.

    • So Bush ‘created’ ISIS, yet no one had ever heard of them until three years into Obama’s time in office….interesting delusions you liberals live under!

    • Just because and other hate consumed republicans say that does make it true. If anyone is delusional it is ignorant, small minded, hate consumed conservatives who just make up shit to fit their racist world views. I never said that GWB created ISIS. I said that ISIS may not have been created had GWB not waged an un-necessary war on Iraq. Please get your facts straight before you post your nonsense. Although I am well aware of the fact that ignorant, small minded, hate consumed conservative republicans have absolutely no use for the truth, facts or even common sense when it comes time to spew their evil, ignorant, small minded, hate consumed BS.

    • “Although there is no doubt that ridiculous republicans will attempt to interpret this to mean that President Obama, created ISIS a opposed to Bush, Cheney regime.”
      Sorry delusional little liberal, but you did indeed say that the Bush Cheney regime created ISIS. Iraq was no only under control, but H Clinton, Obama and Biden all declared that Iraq’s success might end up being one of the Obama administrations largest success’s. Instead, and as predicted by Bush, Cheney and multiple military officials, it led to the creation of a new group of Islamic radicals, uniting many of the previous groups, under the name of ISIS. This occurred well into Obama’s administration and can be laid directly at his feet. One cannot simply withdraw all troops from a war zone and expect good things to happen. And even worse, by not following US military protocol and destroying equipment left behind, Obama left ISIS a wealth of US Humvee’s, weapons and ammunition.

    • What business is it of USA to get rid of Assad. Perhaps you need to talk to a Syrian about this .. Assad has a 85% + approval rating … Syrians are also well aware that Corporation USA is there for Oil and Gaz and Military Industrial profits .. ISIS is a bunch of western backed mercanaries .. How anyone can believe this is in the best interest of any countries national security .. including your own .. has the brains of a rocking horse.

    • The more radical groups were supresed and kept in check by Sadam Husan and his party. One of the good things about being a dictator, you get to do that. Plus, ISIL came out of Syria not Iraq. Sadam was a Sunni, Dominating a Sheit majority, and was able to control the minority Sunnis as well. In the case of Syria, you have a minor Sheit sect, dominating a Sunni majority. And for anyone wondering why this country and others seem to be propping up and supporting totalitarian regimes, that is why. Sometimes they support one evil, for fear of another. A lot of these countries have always been ruled by dictators or a monarch. Remove them in the name of “Democracy”, and it will result in a new tyrant. For all of its good points, Democracy is not very efficient. And whenever people feel they need to get things done fast, and/or they feel that ” We can do a much better job ” you have tyrants trying to take over. For all the problems and injustice of totalitarian regimes, they are at least efficient, usually stable, and most of the time predictable. But if you have one group dominating another, and you remove the power over them, you wind up with retaliation, as you see in Iraq, and will likely see with ISIL.

    • Sorry Falling 321, like I said before, all these groups were suppressed and controlled by Sadam. When Bush and Cheney went in, against all military, diplomatic, and intelligence advice, making up his own information and reasons, this led to the Sheit majority taking over and retaliating for years of suppression. This, without the military and totalitarian restraints from Sadams regime, led naturally to the Sunnis feeling repressed, and a merging of various Sunni groups getting together. So yes, it IS the fault of Bush and Cheney. iSIL is mostly made up of a very strict Sunni sect, and are not supported by all Sunnis, but there are some who feel that they are better then the current Sheit government.

    • Lesa Lal for one I never said that it is in the best interest anyone’s national security. what I said was the President and America’s allies “say” that it is in the best interest of their national security. I am not in any way justifying their actions I simply relayed that information to whoever it was I was replying to so please do attribute to me something I didn’t say, in other words don’t put words in my mouth. People who criticize others for something they didn’t do has the brains of a bag of rocks.

    • Just because you and other bigoted conservatives say that nobody knew or ever heard of ISIS doesn’t by any stretch of the imagination make it true. If anyone is delusional it is the people who believe with every fiber of their being that GOD somehow mysteriously created them “better” than everyone else in the world.

    • Falling 321, you can dress it up any way you like but nothing can change the fact that if GWB had not lied the nation into an illegal and un-necessary war with Iraq there would be no terrorist in Iraq today. And if you are going to accuse the President of something at least present the facts. (On the other hand I am well aware of the fact that republicans have absolutely no use for the truth, facts or even common sense when it come to spewing their negative and hate consumed rhetoric) The fact of the matter is that President Obama tried to keep a significantly large amount of troops in Iraq after the war was officially ended, but the President of Iraq (Al – Maliki) insisted that if any American troops remained in Iraq that they had to be subjected to Iraqi law meaning if and when any American servicemen is accused of committing a crime they would be charged and tried under Iraqi law in Iraqi courts. At that point the war was over Iraq was a sovereign nation and international law dictates that President Al – Maliki had the right to set the conditions regarding troop deployment as well as all other matters concerning Iraq. Under those circumstances no American President would ever agree to those terms, that would be a gross dereliction of duty.

    • #tariq it was proved that the WMD’s were shipped to syria and iran. There were some found still in iraq. I know that it is not the popular thing to say (we should of never been there in the first place) but these are the facts. There are some with the cash to pay the media to keep repeating a lie enough so people believe it to be the truth. Field Marshall Goebels would be proud

    • Regardless of any of that ISIS would not have formed in Iraq if Shrub/Bush would not have lied America into that unnecessary Iraq war.

    • You piece of fucking dog shit! This proves the u.s helped create isis if this is not clear enough for you read again. U.S is corrupt as shit. Thanks to this the middle east is in chaos!

    • (Yet another duplicate post. Sorry. All these duplicate posts were due to Disqus hiding them, as the software sometime does. I must have left & come back.)

    • “GWB had not lied the nation into an illegal and un-necessary war with Iraq there would be no terrorist in Iraq today.”

      Bush had never lied, and no person has ever shown that even now, 12 years later. For him to have lied, he would have had intent to deceive. No one has ever shown that. And as I have shown above, ISIS was founded in 1999, before Bush was even the Republican presidential candidate.

    • It did not. Go to the article “Who Is ISIS? An open source investigation Corbett • 09/07/2014” at the webpage https://www.corbettreport.com/who-is-isis-an-open-source-investigation/.

      If you don’t want to bother going there, here’s a cut-and-paste from it:

      “The Islamic State has gone through numerous name changes since its founding in Iraq in 1999. originally known as Jamāʻat al-Tawḥīd wa-al-Jihād (JTJ), (“The Organization of Monotheism and Jihad”), it changed to Tanẓīm Qāʻidat al-Jihād fī Bilād al-Rāfidayn (“The Organization of Jihad’s Base in the Country of the Two Rivers”) in 2004 after the group swore allegiance to Osama Bin Laden. During this period it was popularly known as Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). In 2006 it became the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), but changed again in 2013 after expanding into Syria. At that point it became Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) or Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS). Its latest moniker, the “Islamic State,” came about
      after the proclamation of a new caliphate on June 29, 2014.”

      The US, under Obama, did resuscitate it, though, as the above linked article shows, after Bush had rendered unconscious/on life support, basically.

    • Where is the Corporation USA in Syria? WHO are they?

      ” ISIS is a bunch of western backed mercanaries”. Name names.

    • pfbonney, if you truly believe the Bush administration did not deceive the nation including both houses of legislature then “proof of intent” nor any amount of discussion will ever allow you to see the light. My main point was that ISIS was not created by the actions of President Obama. If ISIS was funded in 1999 before Bush was even a republican presidential candidate how in hell could President Obama have created them?

    • Obama could not have. Obama just brought them back off life support.

      In my original assertion, I posted “So this is it, then. This is the smoking gun. Bush is not responsible for ISIS. Obama is.”

      While neither Obama nor Bush is responsible for creating ISIS, this article proves (or rather, the article linked FROM this article, referencing the FOIA text that Judicial Watch obtained, proves) how Obama brought them back from the edge.

      Bush had, essentially, killed them off, “The most solid confirmations of the military success in Iraq were the intercepted messages from Al Qaeda operatives in Iraq to their leaders in Pakistan that there was no point sending more insurgents, because they now had no chance of prevailing against American forces. This was the situation that Barack Obama inherited — and lost.” – http://freedomsback.com/thomas-sowell/who-lost-iraq/. Also:

      “During George W. Bush’s last month in office, thirty-one Americans had died in Iraq and Afghanistan. By June, the month of Obama’s infamous Cairo speech, that number had climbed to forty. And by that same time next year, it was at sixty-eight.

      “When Bush left office at the end of his second term, the region was mostly stable aside from Iran’s nuclear program. By the time Obama
      had finished his first term, it was in a state of endless war.

      “It is still in a state of war today.” – http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/222274/obamas-mideast-nightmare-daniel-greenfield

      So Bush had knocked them out, Obama brought them back.

      And as far as the WMD is concerned, John Kerry sat on the Senate Intelligence Committee and saw the same intelligence that Bush saw. So if Bush had intent to deceive, then John Kerry must have, too, or he should have come clean when there was still time, and not wait until we were already committed. Even today, Kerry acts like he never saw that Intel. While there is certainly some intel “For the Presidents eyes only” (And there is a great book on the history of intel of that same name), information such as this, where the nation is going to war, Congressional intel committees would have seen everything that Bush mentioned about WMDs, the yellow-cake uranium, and all of that stuff.

    • Good catch, muckeypuck!

      In Vietnam, we were really after minerals, and the war was nothing to do with keeping South Vietnam free, according to the progressives. I’m 56 years old, and to this day, I’ve never heard of Vietnam having ANY amount of minerals, much less, enough to wage war over. Unless someone considers mud to be a mineral of value.

    • Everything you said is total hogwash. When Bush left office the region was mostly stable? If you actually believe a fraction of the BS you posted you would have to be the most ignorant person in the world or you are just a typical willfully ignorant privileged class person. Either way is not a ringing endorsement on your part.

    • You’re blustering.

      You have no proof that I am wrong, or you would have provided it already. I have provided actual links to my source material. You have provided absolutely nothing beyond mere wishful thinking.

    • Robert Nather, when the hell was that proven, why isn’t Fux Noise blasting that news across the airwaves on a 24/7 loop? If you actually believe that nonsense you posted then you fit snuggly into the category of right wing nut job.

    • pfbonny I have no proof of what? I said that President Obama did not create ISIS in Iraq or anywhere else and you proved my point when you posted that ISIS was created before GWB was elected President which of course is dubious but at the very least it did prove my point. Then you want to change the discussion to something else in the ninth inning and claim that I’m blustering. That’s a typical republican strategy, when you cant dispute the facts create a straw man argument and pretend that is what the discussion was all about in the first place. The link to an article by a ridiculous right wing rag called “freedoms back” that you supplied is not by any stretch of the imagination proof of anything you said, Its nothing more than the opinion of a right wing nut job with a platform to stand on and isn’t worth a shit. The notion that the terrorist told their bosses don’t send help because the Americans are just going to kick our asses even more is suspect at best. There was a very good and very important reason that President Obama didn’t leave major forces in Iraq at the official ending of the war. President Al Maliki, the President of Iraq insisted that any residual American forces left in Iraq would be subject to Iraqi law and tried in Iraqi courts. Which of course no President of any nation would agree to those conditions because it would be a gross dereliction of duty on that President’s part. You don’t have any smoking gun here, you don’t even have a rubber band that was connected to a sling shot. You have nothing but your hatred for President Obama and your right wing republican, Fux Noise talking points, non of which holds any water.

    • Lisa lal I am lmao at your typical republican strategy of creating a straw man argument, where you put words in my mouth then argue against those words that you falsely attribute to me. I said that America and the others who contributed to and assisted in the training of ISIS apparently did it because of national security concerns. Never once did I say anything faintly resembling “I” think or believe they did it for reasons of national security. So nice try, but no cigar.

    • By extension the Bush administration created ISIS because ISIS began in Iraq after the fall of the Husain regime which was the results of the illegal, un-necessary Iraqi war that the Bush administration lied America into.

    • My apologies .. Have met so many people who believe in the mainstream propaganda regarding Assad as well as other trumped up lies … that have created a very unstable world and caused much trauma around the globe I jumped to conclusions.

    • Nothing but hot air. Here’s even more proof that Obama resuscitated ISIS from the near dead:

      https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/2012-classified-u-s-report-isis-must-rise-to-power/

      And, the confirmation:

      http://levantreport.com/2015/08/06/former-dia-chief-michael-flynn-says-rise-of-islamic-state-was-a-willful-decision-and-defends-accuracy-of-2012-memo/

      Btw, I don’t watch the FNC (but maybe you should) nor listen to Rush. I get plenty of news here on the World Wide Web.

      And below is al Baghdadi’s CIA badge, something that couldn’t have happened had Obama not approved it:

    • ISIS was created in 1999. Bush didn’t enter office until 2001. The Hussein regime didn’t fall until 2003. How could have Bush created ISIS?

    • heedless of who created ISIS, THE ISSUE ACCORDING TO THE DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS IS……..OBAMA ALONG WITH THE EU, SENT WEAPONS TO SYRIA VIA BENGHAZI TO ISIS, WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS TO TRAIN THEM……….OBAMA IS RESPONSIBLE PERIOD!!!!! TREASON

    • If that makes you happy, then by all means do with that. It really doesnt matter to me one way or the other.

    • Name calling, tisk tisk. You are a loser. You are brainwashed to believe islam is a religion of peace, as Obama calls IT. It is nothing more than a death cult, soon to be expunged.

  5. I do not know when my country is going down (America) and I
    do not know when Christ is going to return. That is reserved for God alone.

    But this I do know. (Time is running out).

    There is nothing in this country the government will not
    give away!

    The main point is this. Our president is a socialist muslim
    and a good part of our government are muslims.

    We have been infiltrated and the takeover in this country is imminent.

    No visas for Christian immigrants in muslim countries
    because they are Christians. (Muslim immigrants accepted).

    There is a RFID chip in your future so government can track
    and control you.

    Persecution of Christian military personal who exhibit
    faith.

    Perversion readily acceptable.

    Division of the country along racial lines.

    (WAKE UP AMERICANS and CHRISTIANS) YOU ARE NEXT VICTIM OF
    ISLAM and the NWO.

    A radical UN and democratic government want to import muslim
    people from Syria and other failed muslim countries (to the USA) by the
    Hundreds of Thousands. They will slander anyone who disagrees with their agenda
    and I disagree. Furthermore I am saying enough is enough.

    It time to stand up as an Americans (UNITED) and put
    government in its CONSTITUTIONAL rightful place. NO MORE LAW LESSness. Freedom
    is not free and if the people fail to protect their God given rights they will
    have no more rights.

    If I had my way I would tell the UN to go to hell. It is the
    UN forcing these immigration issues in America through our government. Then I
    would round up every one of these Dems. Forcing this invasion on the American
    people and demand they are tried for treason. Those who were not convicted I
    would send to Syria or some other failed muslim hole. Let us see how long
    before the muslims remove their heads.

    ENOUGH of THIS.

    I do not promote Islam
    in any country and for sure not in my own country where islams only concern has
    been to corrupt the system with more TERROR like sharia law and their barbaric
    RELIGION.

    You better wake up people this is nothing less than an
    invasion with the intent of destroying the country, (USA) the Christians, Jews
    and your way of life while promoting the socialistic NWO. Using Islam in the process.

    You want to face a knife at your throat or watch them rape
    your wife or daughter, just ignore these warnings and do nothing. Keep your guns, stock up on ammo and
    pray. If you do not have guns then buy
    one and get plenty of ammo with it. The first step to bringing down a country
    is to disarm as many of its people as possible. Unarmed people are helpless to
    stand against tyranny.

    EVERY

    Country these people have come into, (our) country and other
    countries are now being forced to accept duel government with islam and sharia
    law dividing the countries they immigrate into.
    Their intent to the host country is for the host country to support
    them. They do not assimilate into the countries they migrate into but settle
    separately often taking up to four wives. They procreate like rabbits letting
    the welfare systems take care of them. When they become strong enough
    demographically they infiltrate the political system and demand the countries
    adopt their life style and laws. Always the intent has been to divide and
    conquer.

    THIS stinks to hi heaven, AND I SAY ENOUGH. PAST TIME TO
    CLEAN HOUSE AND WE NEED TO START WITH THE WHITE HOUSE AND WORK DOWN.

    A muslim president and government are not acceptable or
    compatible in a Constitutional republic or democratic society. Muslim will not
    accept Constitutional law considering
    themselves to be above it.

    Your law and you yourselves are considered inferior and
    therefore you are to be subjugated as a slave or killed. (YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS
    UNLESS YOU CONVERT TO ISLAM).

    I am a Christian and if this government thinks I will set
    quietly by and let them destroy my country and eventually destroy my family and
    myself I say NO!

    (ENOUGH) I am going to say lock and load America.

    I am not and animal and I am not going to be slaughtered
    like and animal or forced to accept islam or pay as a slave to live in my
    country. Nor am I going to set ideally and do nothing while my family is set up
    for this satanic system.

    Americans for Americans.

    Jesus Christ is Lord.

      • Jcrosby35 is exactly right. The Islamic caliphate is spearheading in the Middle East. The main goal is to retake the old caliphate areas there and then move on to conquer the world. The Muslim Brotherhood scholars have been infiltrating host governments’ from within, like what has happened in our WH Administration. ISIS is cleansing the old caliphate areas of non-believers and states expected to fall are Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Israel etc. Erdogan of Turkey is reviving the old Ottoman Empire and has been deemed acceptable to be the caliph by none other than the MB’s high Imam. Erdogan has been in talks with Iran. Iran wants Iraq and is already claiming that Bahgdad is Iran’s capitol. Turkey wants Syria. Both Turkey and Iran together would be a powerful force. They will eventually unite all the Islamic tribes with the promise to wipe Israel off the map. BHO has been in lockstep with Erdogan for the caliphate. Hold on for this Holy war is coming. Refer to the calendar section for past posts at this site: shoebat.com.

  6. I do not know when my country is going down (America) and I
    do not know when Christ is going to return. That is reserved for God alone.

    But this I do know. (Time is running out).

    There is nothing in this country the government will not
    give away!

    The main point is this. Our president is a socialist muslim
    and a good part of our government are muslims.

    We have been infiltrated and the takeover in this country is imminent.

    No visas for Christian immigrants in muslim countries
    because they are Christians. (Muslim immigrants accepted).

    There is a RFID chip in your future so government can track
    and control you.

    Persecution of Christian military personal who exhibit
    faith.

    Perversion readily acceptable.

    Division of the country along racial lines.

    (WAKE UP AMERICANS and CHRISTIANS) YOU ARE NEXT VICTIM OF
    ISLAM and the NWO.

    A radical UN and democratic government want to import muslim
    people from Syria and other failed muslim countries (to the USA) by the
    Hundreds of Thousands. They will slander anyone who disagrees with their agenda
    and I disagree. Furthermore I am saying enough is enough.

    It time to stand up as an Americans (UNITED) and put
    government in its CONSTITUTIONAL rightful place. NO MORE LAW LESSness. Freedom
    is not free and if the people fail to protect their God given rights they will
    have no more rights.

    If I had my way I would tell the UN to go to hell. It is the
    UN forcing these immigration issues in America through our government. Then I
    would round up every one of these Dems. Forcing this invasion on the American
    people and demand they are tried for treason. Those who were not convicted I
    would send to Syria or some other failed muslim hole. Let us see how long
    before the muslims remove their heads.

    ENOUGH of THIS.

    I do not promote Islam
    in any country and for sure not in my own country where islams only concern has
    been to corrupt the system with more TERROR like sharia law and their barbaric
    RELIGION.

    You better wake up people this is nothing less than an
    invasion with the intent of destroying the country, (USA) the Christians, Jews
    and your way of life while promoting the socialistic NWO. Using Islam in the process.

    You want to face a knife at your throat or watch them rape
    your wife or daughter, just ignore these warnings and do nothing. Keep your guns, stock up on ammo and
    pray. If you do not have guns then buy
    one and get plenty of ammo with it. The first step to bringing down a country
    is to disarm as many of its people as possible. Unarmed people are helpless to
    stand against tyranny.

    EVERY

    Country these people have come into, (our) country and other
    countries are now being forced to accept duel government with islam and sharia
    law dividing the countries they immigrate into.
    Their intent to the host country is for the host country to support
    them. They do not assimilate into the countries they migrate into but settle
    separately often taking up to four wives. They procreate like rabbits letting
    the welfare systems take care of them. When they become strong enough
    demographically they infiltrate the political system and demand the countries
    adopt their life style and laws. Always the intent has been to divide and
    conquer.

    THIS stinks to hi heaven, AND I SAY ENOUGH. PAST TIME TO
    CLEAN HOUSE AND WE NEED TO START WITH THE WHITE HOUSE AND WORK DOWN.

    A muslim president and government are not acceptable or
    compatible in a Constitutional republic or democratic society. Muslim will not
    accept Constitutional law considering
    themselves to be above it.

    Your law and you yourselves are considered inferior and
    therefore you are to be subjugated as a slave or killed. (YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS
    UNLESS YOU CONVERT TO ISLAM).

    I am a Christian and if this government thinks I will set
    quietly by and let them destroy my country and eventually destroy my family and
    myself I say NO!

    (ENOUGH) I am going to say lock and load America.

    I am not and animal and I am not going to be slaughtered
    like and animal or forced to accept islam or pay as a slave to live in my
    country. Nor am I going to set ideally and do nothing while my family is set up
    for this satanic system.

    Americans for Americans.

    Jesus Christ is Lord.

    • Jcrosby35 is exactly right. The Islamic caliphate is spearheading in the Middle East. The main goal is to retake the old caliphate areas there and then move on to conquer the world. The Muslim Brotherhood scholars have been infiltrating host governments’ from within, like what has happened in our WH Administration. ISIS is cleansing the old caliphate areas of non-believers and states expected to fall are Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Israel etc. Erdogan of Turkey is reviving the old Ottoman Empire and has been deemed acceptable to be the caliph by none other than the MB’s high Imam. Erdogan has been in talks with Iran. Iran wants Iraq and is already claiming that Bahgdad is Iran’s capitol. Turkey wants Syria. Both Turkey and Iran together would be a powerful force. They will eventually unite all the Islamic tribes with the promise to wipe Israel off the map. BHO has been in lockstep with Erdogan for the caliphate. Hold on for this Holy war is coming. Refer to the calendar section for past posts at this site:

  7. Well John McCain participated. So where are the links to these documents? Aren’t they on line anywhere? Imperialism sucks. Its all about Oil and Assad’s good relations with Russia and Russian access to oil. They are murdering Christians and others over there left and right now. It will become a Jihadist state.. another inept maneuver of the US government claiming to want stability but creating hell and a set up for the take over of Israel of a large swath of the the middle east. Israel is patient with its murder and mayhem. It may take 30 years or more. It is their intent.

    • The Islamic caliphate is spearheading in the Middle East. The main goal is to retake the old caliphate areas there and then move on to conquer the world. The Muslim Brotherhood scholars have been infiltrating host governments’ from within, like what has happened in our WH Administration. ISIS is cleansing the old caliphate areas of non-believers and states expected to fall are Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Israel etc. Erdogan of Turkey is reviving the old Ottoman Empire and has been deemed acceptable to be the caliph by none other than the MB’s high Imam. Erdogan has been in talks with Iran. Iran wants Iraq and is already claiming that Bahgdad is Iran’s capitol. Turkey wants Syria. Both Turkey and Iran together would be a powerful force. They will eventually unite all the Islamic tribes with the promise to wipe Israel off the map. BHO has been in lockstep with Erdogan for the caliphate. Hold on for this Holy war is coming. Refer to the calendar section for past posts at this site: shoebat.com.

  8. Well John McCain participated. So where are the links to these documents? Aren’t they on line anywhere? Imperialism sucks. Its all about Oil and Assad’s good relations with Russia and Russian access to oil. They are murdering Christians and others over there left and right now. It will become a Jihadist state.. another inept maneuver of the US government claiming to want stability but creating hell and a set up for the take over of Israel of a large swath of the the middle east. Israel is patient with its murder and mayhem. It may take 30 years or more. It is their intent.

    • The Islamic caliphate is spearheading in the Middle East. The main goal is to retake the old caliphate areas there and then move on to conquer the world. The Muslim Brotherhood scholars have been infiltrating host governments’ from within, like what has happened in our WH Administration. ISIS is cleansing the old caliphate areas of non-believers and states expected to fall are Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Israel etc. Erdogan of Turkey is reviving the old Ottoman Empire and has been deemed acceptable to be the caliph by none other than the MB’s high Imam. Erdogan has been in talks with Iran. Iran wants Iraq and is already claiming that Bahgdad is Iran’s capitol. Turkey wants Syria. Both Turkey and Iran together would be a powerful force. They will eventually unite all the Islamic tribes with the promise to wipe Israel off the map. BHO has been in lockstep with Erdogan for the caliphate. Hold on for this Holy war is coming. Refer to the calendar section for past posts at this site:

  9. Why doesn’t this article link to the report? Or cite any sources? Not that I don’t believe we don’t support terrorism. We generally do (We supported the Taliban in the 80s, Saddam in the 80s, Indonesia, death squads of Central America etc.). Just like good journalism…

  10. Why doesn’t this article link to the report? Or cite any sources? Not that I don’t believe we don’t support terrorism. We generally do (We supported the Taliban in the 80s, Saddam in the 80s, Indonesia, death squads of Central America etc.). Just like good journalism…

  11. Stupid fellows screaming their lungs off whether the reps were at fault or the dems. Who cares? The rest of the world – such a thing exists, BTW – doesn’t give a rat’s a$$ for they’re all well aware that each is as much a slave of the business-military establishment nexUS as the other.

  12. Stupid fellows screaming their lungs off whether the reps were at fault or the dems. Who cares? The rest of the world – such a thing exists, BTW – doesn’t give a rat’s a$$ for they’re all well aware that each is as much a slave of the business-military establishment nexUS as the other.

    • The British started this whole thing, with Sikes-Picot and the UK’s occupation of Iran. We Americans are just trying to deal with the aftermath.

    • The British started this whole thing, with Sikes-Picot and the UK’s occupation of Iran. We Americans are just trying to deal with the aftermath.

  13. There is no proof of the info in this article, no links to the documents means no documents. Might as well have been made up by the one person trolling the comments.

  14. There is no proof of the info in this article, no links to the documents means no documents. Might as well have been made up by the one person trolling the comments.

  15. wait, what???? this article doesn’t say or report anything if you are trying to say idiots that were in the group of people trained in jordan ran off and joined the daesh then maybe that happened, maybe…but the daesh were not named as assets the anti assad people trained in jordan were and like i said some of them may have ran off like idiots and joined up but there isn’t any proof or reports that indicate that you are just supposing and adding thing someone made up….also what are howitzer missiles?…did you make up a new kind of weapon too?

  16. wait, what???? this article doesn’t say or report anything if you are trying to say idiots that were in the group of people trained in jordan ran off and joined the daesh then maybe that happened, maybe…but the daesh were not named as assets the anti assad people trained in jordan were and like i said some of them may have ran off like idiots and joined up but there isn’t any proof or reports that indicate that you are just supposing and adding thing someone made up….also what are howitzer missiles?…did you make up a new kind of weapon too?

  17. The game plan is very simple. American imperialism can rule the third world only if these countries remain undemocratic political systems and consequently remain backward and even break up under the influence of primitive ideologies. Therefore, the US administration uses each and every instrument to execute this game plan. ISIS and the ilk are the best people for this game plan. But nobody can predict the nature of the scenario when Genie is out of the bottle. I am reminded of Steven Spielberg’s Jurassic Park. The last words of the scientist, if I could remember correctly, in this film were ‘never go there.’

  18. The game plan is very simple. American imperialism can rule the third world only if these countries remain undemocratic political systems and consequently remain backward and even break up under the influence of primitive ideologies. Therefore, the US administration uses each and every instrument to execute this game plan. ISIS and the ilk are the best people for this game plan. But nobody can predict the nature of the scenario when Genie is out of the bottle. I am reminded of Steven Spielberg’s Jurassic Park. The last words of the scientist, if I could remember correctly, in this film were ‘never go there.’

  19. Total crap, with a classic click bait headline. The text doesn’t mention ISIS, which had been around for some time. There were many secular and nonsecular militias fighting Assad during the Arab Spring. The rest of the article is fabrication and red meat for Obama haters.

    • The referenced report does. Click on the words “Judicial Watch” in the story’s first line. You’ll see references to “AL QAEDA – IRAQ (AQI)” and “ISI” in paragraphs C. 3. (C) and 8.D.1., respectively.

  20. Total crap, with a classic click bait headline. The text doesn’t mention ISIS, which had been around for some time. There were many secular and nonsecular militias fighting Assad during the Arab Spring. The rest of the article is fabrication and red meat for Obama haters.

    • The referenced report does. Click on the words “Judicial Watch” in the story’s first line. You’ll see references to “AL QAEDA – IRAQ (AQI)” and “ISI” in paragraphs C. 3. (C) and 8.D.1., respectively.

  21. This administration has been throwing money and weapons at every middle eastern group they can. Remember they were supporting the muslim brotherhood in egypt and sent them billions of dollars in cash and weapons? Then they did the same thing for isis, knowing full well that those weapons would be used to fight our soldiers. What a shame.

    • Dont forget openly admitted fact on media by Hilary that Mujahideen were supported by USA Govt to fight against Russians in Afghanistan.

    • Jcrosby35 is exactly right. The Islamic caliphate is spearheading in the Middle East. The main goal is to retake the old caliphate areas there and then move on to conquer the world. The Muslim Brotherhood scholars have been infiltrating host governments’ from within, like what has happened in our WH Administration. ISIS is cleansing the old caliphate areas of non-believers and states expected to fall are Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Israel etc. Erdogan of Turkey is reviving the old Ottoman Empire and has been deemed acceptable to be the caliph by none other than the MB’s high Imam. Erdogan has been in talks with Iran. Iran wants Iraq and is already claiming that Bahgdad is Iran’s capitol. Turkey wants Syria. Both Turkey and Iran together would be a powerful force. They will eventually unite all the Islamic tribes with the promise to wipe Israel off the map. BHO has been in lockstep with Erdogan for the caliphate. Hold on for this Holy war is coming. Refer to the calendar section for past posts at this site: shoebat.com.

  22. This administration has been throwing money and weapons at every middle eastern group they can. Remember they were supporting the muslim brotherhood in egypt and sent them billions of dollars in cash and weapons? Then they did the same thing for isis, knowing full well that those weapons would be used to fight our soldiers. What a shame.

    • Dont forget openly admitted fact on media by Hilary that Mujahideen were supported by USA Govt to fight against Russians in Afghanistan.

    • Jcrosby35 is exactly right. The Islamic caliphate is spearheading in the Middle East. The main goal is to retake the old caliphate areas there and then move on to conquer the world. The Muslim Brotherhood scholars have been infiltrating host governments’ from within, like what has happened in our WH Administration. ISIS is cleansing the old caliphate areas of non-believers and states expected to fall are Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Israel etc. Erdogan of Turkey is reviving the old Ottoman Empire and has been deemed acceptable to be the caliph by none other than the MB’s high Imam. Erdogan has been in talks with Iran. Iran wants Iraq and is already claiming that Bahgdad is Iran’s capitol. Turkey wants Syria. Both Turkey and Iran together would be a powerful force. They will eventually unite all the Islamic tribes with the promise to wipe Israel off the map. BHO has been in lockstep with Erdogan for the caliphate. Hold on for this Holy war is coming. Refer to the calendar section for past posts at this site:

  23. Is this the man we should have handling our Iranian nuclear negotiations?

    President Obama stated that one of his “top priorities” was to get our hostages out of Iran but continues negotiating ignoring the pleas from the American public with over a million people petitioning and bills written from congress demanding these prisoners release. We need an answer from him and Kerry rather than one of their “were doing everything we can”. Human rights reports were held back intentionally since last February.

    We need congress to pass another bill that the Whitehouse US flag fly at half mast as a reminder to our president until our US prisoners are brought home

    Obama made sure he released Iran’s prisoners before negotiations began but did nothing to secure our US Citizens.
    •Mojtaba Atarodi, arrested and awaiting trial for buying and smuggling nuclear-enrichment equipment. Atarodi was associated with the IRGC’s nuclear program.
    •Shahrzad Mir Gholikhan, convicted on three counts of weapons trafficking.
    •Amir Hossein Seirafi, convicted of trying to buy vacuum pumps for plutonium enrichment.
    •Nosratollah Tajik, arrested buying sensitive night-vision equipment.
    With this coming out today and final negotiations being days away, shouldn’t they be halted until we know more?

  24. Is this the man we should have handling our Iranian nuclear negotiations?

    President Obama stated that one of his “top priorities” was to get our hostages out of Iran but continues negotiating ignoring the pleas from the American public with over a million people petitioning and bills written from congress demanding these prisoners release. We need an answer from him and Kerry rather than one of their “were doing everything we can”. Human rights reports were held back intentionally since last February.

    We need congress to pass another bill that the Whitehouse US flag fly at half mast as a reminder to our president until our US prisoners are brought home

    Obama made sure he released Iran’s prisoners before negotiations began but did nothing to secure our US Citizens.
    •Mojtaba Atarodi, arrested and awaiting trial for buying and smuggling nuclear-enrichment equipment. Atarodi was associated with the IRGC’s nuclear program.
    •Shahrzad Mir Gholikhan, convicted on three counts of weapons trafficking.
    •Amir Hossein Seirafi, convicted of trying to buy vacuum pumps for plutonium enrichment.
    •Nosratollah Tajik, arrested buying sensitive night-vision equipment.
    With this coming out today and final negotiations being days away, shouldn’t they be halted until we know more?

  25. Do you people even have quality control before you post this stuff? If you want your things to be taken seriously, at least proof read your own articles.

  26. Obama isn’t able to see further than his nose. He’s unable to think things through and project the consequences. Once again he has only seen the immediate gain (normally for his own political gain) with no concern about the aftermath.

  27. Obama isn’t able to see further than his nose. He’s unable to think things through and project the consequences. Once again he has only seen the immediate gain (normally for his own political gain) with no concern about the aftermath.

  28. John Mc Cain had his picture taken with the future ISIS members when he was touting arming them against Syria . So you are wrong .

  29. John Mc Cain had his picture taken with the future ISIS members when he was touting arming them against Syria . So you are wrong .

  30. I hear all of this Conspiracy Theory about this and that, why doesn’t Judicial Watch release these “Unclassified Documents” so that we can read them, in Other Words, “Put your money where your mouth is” so to speak, and Trust me, I cannot stand Obama, wish he was in Syria right now so ISIS could make him the pansy he is. I have seen dozens of sites that claim this and that, Next you know, Trump will be from Mars, and all these sites swearing to it, this is the kind of shit that starts a lot of problems for all of us. I say “You write something, be able to back it up”.

  31. I hear all of this Conspiracy Theory about this and that, why doesn’t Judicial Watch release these “Unclassified Documents” so that we can read them, in Other Words, “Put your money where your mouth is” so to speak, and Trust me, I cannot stand Obama, wish he was in Syria right now so ISIS could make him the pansy he is. I have seen dozens of sites that claim this and that, Next you know, Trump will be from Mars, and all these sites swearing to it, this is the kind of shit that starts a lot of problems for all of us. I say “You write something, be able to back it up”.

  32. No matter who started Isis the problem is America and other countries keep funding and training these countries that hate America and in turn that helped group seems to turn on us and
    everyone else by using our money, weapons and training to kill everyone that does not believe what they believe. Stop giving power to our enemies.

  33. No matter who started Isis the problem is America and other countries keep funding and training these countries that hate America and in turn that helped group seems to turn on us and
    everyone else by using our money, weapons and training to kill everyone that does not believe what they believe. Stop giving power to our enemies.

  34. So help me understand this, Obama was ordering the training of terrorists who’ve targeted our Allies; and secretly undermining and attacking our friends and long time alliance Israel? Does that resonate with anyone else?

    If I’m understanding that correctly, that would make Obama a sabator, possibly a spy working for someone other than the American people and its interests. if this is the case and not clearly treason then words no longer have meaning. Does that resonate with anyone else?

  35. So help me understand this, Obama was ordering the training of terrorists who’ve targeted our Allies; and secretly undermining and attacking our friends and long time alliance Israel? Does that resonate with anyone else?

    If I’m understanding that correctly, that would make Obama a sabator, possibly a spy working for someone other than the American people and its interests. if this is the case and not clearly treason then words no longer have meaning. Does that resonate with anyone else?

  36. #‎Obama‬, ‪#‎Congress‬, ‪#‎USDOJ‬, ‪#‎USDofS‬ ‪#‎HLS‬ … YOU are Charged to DEFEND AMERICA from ALL ENEMIES…Foreign or Domestic…. So here is a Simple Solution to meet your ***MISSION.
    ***STOP…Providing REFUGE to any “UN-VETTED~REFUGEE”, …PERIOD.
    ***LOOK …At the Conditions Our European Allies are experiencing, There is FACTUAL UP-FRONT and UP-TO-DATE, HISTORY LESSON, and EVEN a ‘FIFTH GRADER’, CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.
    ***LISTEN … TO…”WE THE PEOPLE”, … We DON’T NEED… Islamic MUSLIM~”NO GO ZONES” IN AMERICA”.
    ***Christ-Like, it is proper to Help, Aid and Assist those in need and are destitute, …
    BUT WHEN THOSE we choose to provide the Help ,
    ..BECOME AGGRESSIVE and ASSAULT, … Our Country From With-in…with their, …
    “HATE of The American FOUNDATION of Fact, that “WE ARE ONE NATION UNDER GOD”,
    WHILE… their Middle East Leaders Have Clearly and Precisely Threatened …”DEATH to AMERICA” …
    “””WHY WOULD WE INVITE SELF~INFLICTED DISASTER, from KNOWN ENEMIES ???”””
    ***… Less to stress the fact that Our LEADERS have CHOSEN, a slow but purposeful and painful, NATION SUICIDE !!!

  37. Sooooooo……the rumor that Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi about the gun running situation when he was killed….meaning that Obama and Hillary Clinton knew about the gun running. Then SURELY Clinton knew about the need for more protection for the embassy there that Amb. Stevens had requested numerous times they were attacked over the months ahead of the Benghazi attack. So many lies, so much subterfuging, deception. And Democrats want Hillary as our president?

  38. Sooooooo……the rumor that Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi about the gun running situation when he was killed….meaning that Obama and Hillary Clinton knew about the gun running. Then SURELY Clinton knew about the need for more protection for the embassy there that Amb. Stevens had requested numerous times they were attacked over the months ahead of the Benghazi attack. So many lies, so much subterfuging, deception. And Democrats want Hillary as our president?

  39. ISIS is just a fancy name for al-Qaida…and
    Bush is just as gusty as any one in this corrupt government as well as Hillary. You can bet big money controls everything. All this war is just more about money. Now the US is using Russia to do their dirty work. Israel and Arabia have sold the contracts for oil in Syia to the Murdochs and Rothchild…so now what? What is the next move? To take away the rights of people and overwhelm them with refugees…mostly Europe. I hope people uprise against this like crazy. I do hope so. Everyone’s rights are worth fighting for. We have all been sold out long ago.

  40. ISIS is just a fancy name for al-Qaida…and
    Bush is just as gusty as any one in this corrupt government as well as Hillary. You can bet big money controls everything. All this war is just more about money. Now the US is using Russia to do their dirty work. Israel and Arabia have sold the contracts for oil in Syia to the Murdochs and Rothchild…so now what? What is the next move? To take away the rights of people and overwhelm them with refugees…mostly Europe. I hope people uprise against this like crazy. I do hope so. Everyone’s rights are worth fighting for. We have all been sold out long ago.

  41. Very disingenuous piece. The administration thought it was supporting Salafist groups, not eventual ISIS terrorist groups. This kind of nonsense makes it clear what your site trades in. Baloney.

    • I’ve seen no evidence of that.

      But, considering how little preparation this administration puts into implementing its other agenda (“Fast and Furious” comes to mind, as well as the Benghazi gun-running (to Syria) operation) and having seen it blow up in their face, I can’t say that you’re wrong.

      Obama has admitted that he is lazy, and watching what happens to whatever he implements, anyone can see that is a truism.

  42. Very disingenuous piece. The administration thought it was supporting Salafist groups, not eventual ISIS terrorist groups. This kind of nonsense makes it clear what your site trades in. Baloney.

    • I’ve seen no evidence of that.

      But, considering how little preparation this administration puts into implementing its other agenda (“Fast and Furious” comes to mind, as well as the Benghazi gun-running (to Syria) operation) and having seen it blow up in their face, I can’t say that you’re wrong.

      Obama has admitted that he is lazy, and watching what happens to whatever he implements, anyone can see that is a truism.

  43. Well, this worked as well as fast and furious but with a lot more death, suffering. Good job Barry.

  44. Well, this worked as well as fast and furious but with a lot more death, suffering. Good job Barry.

  45. Remind me please, who was it that Said Obummer was the Cause of ISSI, ohh yah that is right its the one who is Winning sitting in the white house. Remove all Rinos from Congress and Senate, vote them out, and not with a Clown Democrat, with a patriotic candidate!!

  46. this MUSLIM SCUM BAG TRAITOR NEEDS ARRESTED LIKE NOW, AND HELD FOR TRIAL AND ALL INVOLVED WITH HIM.

  47. Arrest BHO and HRC they are enemy supplier and supporters It is Treason & Sedition But main stream media pushed them like nothing wrong. What the hell is wrong with our government and our main stream media?

  48. Barack Obama always was a Muslim Radical Racist Bigot Hated and Killed Christians by the Thousands , like the Islamist Muslim he really is, Saved the Radical Islamist Terrorist Jihadist . He brought Thousands into the USA as Refuges . Obama the PUKE .

  49. Obama was just a puppet following the orders of his Globalist bosses just like the Bush’s, Clinton and many others before them. The puppet masters go deeper than Soros. Soros may be the puppet master to the likes of Obama, the Clinton’s and most of the RINOs and Democrats in Washington. In my opinion, Soros is also a puppet himself. Trump is a threat to their real bosses. They are nothing more than puppets doing what their puppet masters tell them to do. This was in the works long before Kennedy, Johnston, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush 41, Bush 43, Clinton, Obama and even Reagan were borne. Perhaps even further back than all that. Possibly as far as the early to middle 19th Century.

    All you have to do is a little research and you will find that the puppet masters who control the real power are the ones behind the curtains that you don’t hear about. They are the powerful elites like the Rockefeller’s, Cavendish’s (Kennedy), Vanderbilt’s, Rothschild’s, the Hollywood Left (Not to be mistaken for the useful idiots you see on the big screen), the elites of the Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission just to name a few. I think they are the ones who make up the real power.

    Don’t just take my word for all of this. Do your own research. Removing Soros, Obama and the Clinton’s out of the picture, regardless of the means, will not put a stop to this. They will just be replaced. This is what Khrushchev was talking about when he said they would defeat us from within without firing a shot. Joseph McCarthy may have been an SOB, but if he was still alive, he would be saying ‘I told you so!”

    You are right. They are all puppets to include Obama, the Clinton’s and even Soros. I believe it goes deeper. Soros may be the puppet master to the likes of Obama, the Clinton’s and most of the RINOs and Democrats in Washington. In my opinion, Soros is also a puppet himself. Trump is a threat to their real bosses. They are nothing more than puppets doing what their puppet masters tell them to do. This was in the works long before Kennedy, Johnston, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush 41, Bush 43, Clinton, Obama and even Reagan were borne. Perhaps even further back than all that. Possibly as far as the early to middle 19th Century.

    A little research will show that the puppet masters who control the real power are the ones behind the curtains that you don’t hear about. They are the powerful elites like the Rockefeller’s, Cavendish’s (Kennedy), Vanderbilt’s, Rothschild’s, the Hollywood Left (Not to be mistaken for the useful idiots you see on the big screen), the elites of the Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission just to name a few. I think they are the ones who make up the real power.

    Removing Soros, Obama and the Clinton’s out of the picture, regardless of the means, will not put a stop to this. They will just be replaced. This is what Khrushchev was talking about when he said that we would be defeated from within without firing a shot. Joseph McCarthy may have been an SOB, but if he was still alive, he would be saying: “I told you so!”

  50. “The deadly and shocking attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission” that saw (4!!!) Americans… are you kidding me? You don’t see our decimating Libya as anything to do w. that?

  51. As far as I’m concerned the facts are there that Obama & affiliates helped in aiding an abetting our enemy ,otherwise why were they trying to coverup the Benghazi attack other then not wanting the public to know the true facts how weapons we’re funneled to the enemy with a lame excuse a video caused the uprising,Obama & company should be held accountable ,no if ands or butts about it,he is guilty,throw in Hillary also.

  52. This sob needs to be charged for violation of the war powers act. Williful negligence and lying to congress, treason, sedition against our US Government and executed by firing squad…..and hillary next.

  53. WHAT’S NEXT REGIME, TRUMPS BACKED ‘MANTEL RETARD KING- SALMAN’ REGIME!!, ANYONE HERE!! A VICTIM OF ISLAMOPHOBIA !!!!

  54. I heard these things years ago. Arming our enemies in the Middle East .. Obama and Hillary also brought down Lybia. I can’t believe that such people were leading America.

  55. …and Senator John McCain supported this! It was Obama, McCain and Clinton who wanted to overthrow Gaddafi and then Assad.

    Obama, McCain and Clinton destabilized the entire region and caused the migration crisis for Europe where now several million muslims have relocated….including many terrorists.

    • McCain was the kind of guy who would reject whoever the Republican middle class, or base, wanted to back.
      He was much more comfortable hanging with the Dems…… a true RINO.

  56. THE MUSLIM WITHIN THE WHITE HOUSE OBAMA WAS AS CORRUPT AS THEY CAME, AND THE SATAN DEMON RAT SCUM IS STILL IN OBAMA AND GEORGE SOROS CORRUPT COMPANY…

    • I figured this out when trained personnel were allowed to “disappear” into the war zone and tons of ammunition were “accidently” dropped into ISIS territory. On top of that, Obama refused to allow our soldiers, who were getting killed “defending America” to stand down and not try to win the war with ISIS so it would be prolonged for the sake of the military industrial complex to become even richer at the expense of American lives. This was tyranny and satanic, and should be punished to the fullest extent of a military tribunal. Lives were lost because of this treachery to the American people.

  57. It has been the goal of the UN or Globalist to rule this Planet. And if it takes having every country in a civil war for them to come in and take over. As Obama says he wants to be the Chairman if the UN to rule for Islam. But the Illuminati’s and Elites that will rule and push Islam out when they achieve their goals.

    • Well said, I give you credit for knowing about the Illuminati, most people don’t, and others just don’t believe it.

    • And there are still liberals who will tell you he was the best president this country has ever had. So sad how many stupid people we have as Americans and if hitlery runs in 2020 these same people will vote for her.

  58. Obama was this country’s biggest mistake ever! To elect a person like him and do it twice will go down in our History as the two biggest mistakes any country made since Hitler! In fact I think Obama is just as demented and vile a person as Hitler was!

  59. Obama armed them and trained them,. and thern we had to fight and kill them, and morons, total morons, believe Obama was a great President ? Get a clue. Oh, and this is real news, Judicial Watch fights for us American citizens to get to see these documents that corrupted government agencies and Presidents try to hide from us.

  60. This is right & correct article, this is the reason Ambassador Chris & 3 other brave citizen were murdered by Obama & Hillary (because these people allowed to be killed, hold help and never sent any help purposely), because this ambassador knew all this and was planning to disclose this secrets. This is all started from Benghazi, and then all communication between Hillary & Obama were bleached, including 20% Uranium sold to Ukraine & Russia.

  61. Wasn’t there an Army Special Forces Group or Marine MEU tasked with training/arming the “Moderate Rebels” that McCain was in love with? I think they were operating just inside the Turkish border. After they completed training didn’t these “Moderate Rebels” just return to their terrorist units with the US purchased weapons?

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