SB18 Bill Will Allow Authorities To Enter Unvaccinated Kids Homes

California SB18 bill will allow authorities to enter homes of unvaccinated children

California has passed the controversial SB18 bill, allowing state authorities to enter unvaccinated children’s homes in order to assess the child’s safety.

SB18 is a law that forces parents to adhere to and comply with the government’s definition of what is “appropriate” practice when it comes to raising children. Failure to comply with “appropriate” practises, including going against “evidence-based” medical recommendations, can put parents at risk of losing their children.

Healthimpactnews.com reports:

At first blush, the amendments’ defining details of SB18 — which is being pushed by Big Pharma whipping boy Sen. Richard Pan (D-Sacramento) — appear altruistic in nature, utilizing language that attempts to swaddle political overreach in soothing terms like “child bill of rights.” However when taking a closer look, the amendments contain strangely redundant policy that seems to be seeking laws for innocuous rights that already exist, which begs the question, what is the real purpose for this legislation?

For example, section 1 defines the “right for a child’s parents to obtain employment opportunities that promote healthy balance between work and life.” While an obvious statement, are laws currently on the books that do NOT allow parents to promote healthy balance between work and life? Do we really need a law that says this, and does it mean that the state of California will have the right to decide if your job is acceptable enough for you to parent your children?

Moreover, the repeated use of the term “evidence-based” guidelines suggest if parents don’t follow their guidelines they will fall under scrutiny via “home visitation programs.” While the amendments use the term “voluntary” to describe participation in these said visitation programs, what happens if you don’t agree to do so?  Why is Jim Steyer to decide the standards which will take away the rights of parents to make decisions about their lives and the lives of their children?  These are the very serious questions that are going unanswered.

One section in particular that is especially alarming is section 1c, which is as follows:

The rights of a child’s parents to access evidence-based, voluntary home visitation programs such as comprehensive, coordinated home services that are offered to support positive parenting and improve outcomes for families including: improved maternal and child health, prevention of child injuries, child abuse and maltreatment and reduction of emergency department visits, improvement in school readiness and achievement, reduction in crime or domestic violence, improvements in family economic self-sufficiency and improvements in the coordination and referrals for other community resources and support.

Although it is written in legalistic language it is easy to see exactly what Steyer, Pan & company are really saying: Parents must, because a child has rights, allow authorities to implement home visitations to assess living conditions in order to implement medical/educational/occupational and technological standards coordinated with multiple agencies in order to ensure that parents comply with standards as set forth by the state.

“This legislation is frightening on so many levels, and is especially horrific to members of the vaccine-injured community,” said Michelle Ford, President and founder of the Vaccine Injury Awareness League (www.V-IAL.org).

“To imply that parents may have to submit to an in-home visitation program because they may be seeking an alternative to ‘evidence-based theories,’ which could easily be bought science such as mandatory vaccinations, is an outrage,” said Ford, “which is exactly what SB18 is saying. Furthermore, if any of these bureaucrats took one second to understand the life of a vaccine-injured child, which often includes complex diagnoses like tics, head banging and seizures, and what that family goes through when attempting to address these complexities, they would stop this continued push for Californians to comply with a medical utopia that simply does not exist, and instead look at the harm they are causing by injuring children through their egoistic negligence.”

Ford goes on to point out that in the early stages of vaccine injury, parents often seek emergency medical treatment in order to treat and diagnose the horrible symptoms often associated with vaccine injury.  Subjecting families to increased scrutiny of in-home visits during such a stressful time while parents are simply trying to get their heads around what has happened to their kid is unconscionable.

“It definitely paves the way for egregious acts of medical kidnapping and other abuses,” said Ford.

While no one can argue that helping families who are at risk is an important and noble cause, overreaching by taking away the rights of the whole in the name of protecting a few is bad policy making.

Moreover, introduction of this legislation is confusing given that the state already has a department of child protective services which in California has an annual budget of $314 million for 2016-2017 alone. How does introducing additional restrictions on parental decision making without factoring in services that are already available and are possibly misappropriated, in the best interest of the state?

As we have continued to see increased cases of medical kidnapping and aggressive overreach of the medical system and the marriage of scientific opinion to laws in the United States, parents in California may be seeing a trend first hand that is going to be played out in the rest of the nation. Especially since 134 vaccine mandates have been introduced in this legislative session, indicating the trend for political mandates of your child’s standard of care is nowhere near slowing down.

Many have speculated that SB18 is a part of Agenda 21 and Healthy People 2020 — U.N. and U.S.-based initiatives, respectively, that are designed to corral populations into the inner cities and enforce a standard of care across the board that will implement controls that enable governments to manage portions of the population based on their standards and not the choices of the individual.

In the meantime, concerned constituents should raise their voices now in California with their lawmakers, before SB18 and the Steyer brothers tell you how to raise your kids.

  • John C Carleton

    In other words, the Kalifornia nuts, want to be able to come into a persons home, and poison, perhaps premaritally disable, or even murder the child with the concoction that the pill companies are making millions on. Sounds like to me, Californians need to have a nut gathering and crushing party.

    • Fingal Carson

      What’s next? Will they require anyone who gets flagged to be forced to be “diagnosed” and take MD-prescribed pills everyday? Totally out of hand. For the children or for the elderly are all BS excuses.

      The liberal/zionist yankees hate children and the elderly like no one’s business. It is in their DNA to hate the very foundation of society and seek to destroy it. Now here comes the fantasy they’ve been waiting for over 3 generations: to finally push the stupid parents aside, too.

      They are also reversos as you know as well. Evidence-based = fairytale and on and on. Doublethink, doublespeak. A right to access = it must be forced without choice. Unbelievable how obvious they are and yet no one gets it.

      The world just gets more and more like a TV show.

      • PollyTickle1

        This is not a liberal/zionist/yankee issue. There are pharma lobbyists and paid-off politicians on both sides of the political spectrum. The republican lobbyists/non-profit ALEC is also involved in pushing pharma’s vaccine agenda. Your view that dems hate children is dangerous and wrong.

        • Aaron David

          Really? Then why is maintaining the unfettered ability to slaughter babies the dems TOP agenda? Every time we go to a baby murdering celebration to preach it’s full of witches and sodomites and all liberals singing and dancing and feasting. Nothing makes liberals, witches and sodomites happier than killing babies. Nothing. And I’d bet you my shoes that’s all you’ll find behind this sick Nazi garbage too.

          • PollyTickle1

            Really? On your bio page you mention the Presidio and Aquino. Aquino (and Crowley) were republican, and anti-semitic white supremacists. Demonizing half the population as baby-killers makes you wrong and dangerous. Research Cult of Kek and why Set was chosen to replace Satan. https://danielkbuntovnik.wordpress.com/tag/michael-aquino/

          • Pnut3269

            Well said

          • soldr3968 .

            Very well said Aaron David. Respect.

          • ProudWitchMom

            This comment is disgusting! Bible thumping, narcissistic, egotistical, hypocritical, narrowminded, unknowledgable people like you are what’s wrong with the world today. You are just as bad as the government policies that support you. I am a PROUD PAGAN WITCH and happen to be a DAMN GOOD MOTHER! I MAKE NO JOY IN SLAUGHTERING BABIES! ALL THIS VILE VOMIT INDUCING BULLSHIT COMES FROM A MAN OF A FAITH THAT OVER CENTURIES HAS SLAUGHTERED MILLIONS, ADULT, CHILD AND INFANT SIMPLY OUT OF FEAR AND A NEED TO RID THE WORLD OF THOSE WHO DO NOT FOLLOW YOUR BELIEFS! YOUR religious holidays celebrating your murderous faith are done so on pagan high holy days celebrated centuries before you took over and changed them for your purpose of easy conversion by king Constantine and sadly have pagan beliefs woven through them like a pattern on an exotic rug and sadly you have no clue of any of it. Next time you toast to St Patrick’s day think of the thousands of men women and children he slaughtered to rid Ireland of the “heathens” or put an Easter egg in ur child’s basket think of the day Ostara were we celebrate fertility and birth and man, animal and nature during spring…. or put up a Christmas tree and sing YULTIDE CAROLS and decorate with green red and silver n think the fire celebration YULE. Think before you speak jerk. Maybe you should learn a few things before you open that judgemental and obviously uneducated mouth of yours!!!

          • Cheryl Egle

            I love you! Thank you for shining some reality on this whatever it is.

          • Nina Marrocco

            Nothing to be proud of, you are Vile.

          • Chaos

            Aren’t you the judgmental cunt, Nina?! What’s the matter? You need to hit someone with your bible to feel better?

          • Devon Beckham

            Your affirmation of being a witch is sickening. To be a pagan witch is to denounce Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. To deny your child to know Jesus is a travesty! I pray Jesus Christ touches your life and your heart and draws you closer to the truth. Satan’s got you twisted. God bless you and your child.

          • Nina Marrocco

            Not a good mother with your belief’s.

          • Devon Beckham

            Agreed!

          • steverich

            Yessir

      • Jen

        They already do this….for instance I have a seizure condition. They force me to take pills that make me fell terrible and damage my liver if I want to be able to drive a car. Yet when I don’t take their pills I fell much better and have less seizures, only problem is that the seizures are more painful and intense. But that only lasts one day, with the pills I’m miserable daily……

        • Mike Stevens

          “They force me to take pills”….

          No, they require you to be free of seizures in order to be able to drive a car. This is quite appropriate to save other road users and pedestrians from the significant risks of injury or death that would result if an epileptic drives a vehicle.

          If you CHOOSE not to take medication, then you cannot drive.

          • http://www.illuminati-r-us.com/ Reality022

            They can’t do that to me!!!!11!!!!!!

            I have 20/450 vision and I hate wearing corrective lenses so I drive without. If the NWO/Aluminutty agents ever catch me and try to force me to wear glasses they’ll have to pry my contact case from my cold, dead fingers. Who do they think they are to require me to accept a medical device?
            Huh?
            Just who do they think they are???!!!11!!!!!??

          • LC Stewart

            LOLOLOL

        • Tyler Finvold

          Try cannabis oil, it’s known to be an anti seizure natural medicine. Take their “pills” and throw them in the trash.

    • Chaos

      omg… premaritally??? premaritally disable children… bwahahahahahaha antivaxxers are fukking retarded. Go ahead and do us a favor and don’t bother with shots, we love watching you idiots take yourselves out with preventable diseases.

      • John C Carleton

        I think you will find this educational, considering your infection.
        little piece i wrote, called’ Zionist Webworms’!
        http://www.johnccarleton.org/BLOGGER/2017/04/02/zionist-webworms/

        • Chaos

          Like I would believe anything written by an anti-vaxx retard.

      • nick quinlan

        It’s plain to see from your post who the idiot is here….wow.
        Guess what numbskull, more people are taken out with preventable vaccines, than the mild childhood illnesses we vaccinate for ever could.

        • Chaos

          How fukking stupid are you? I am for vaccinations. My in-credulousness is due to the fact no one edited this article. Read it again, retard.

          • nick quinlan

            Not even half as stupid as you are.
            If you are for vaccinations, I suggest you take enough of them to remove yourself from the gene pool.

          • Chaos

            You are so retarded. I suggest you suck on a bullet. Please don’t breed.

        • Nina Marrocco

          I know, right.

      • soldr3968 .

        Your ignorance is our best friend. We need not worry about you, b/c you haven’t the common sense to participate in your own rescue. I truly understand not knowing something, but willful ignorance is a crime that I rank with pedophilia and murder. Are you aware that most vaccines contain a substance called Polysorbate 80 (http://www.google.com/patents/WO1999034825A1?cl=en)? It was developed as an immunocontraceptive for female dogs. One thing lead to another, and they figured out if they increased the dosage, they could make the female dog sterile. Why or how it was decided that newborn children needed to be injected with this substance is beyond me. Preventable diseases? Are you serious? NO dis-eases are preventable – its called a healthy immune system that detects the foreign-invader in the body then attacks and destroys it before any symptoms are noticed. For your argument, I’ll inform you that some Women in Africa how now been found to be immune to the HIV virus (I’ll leave it up to you to figure out how they found that out).

        • Chaos

          Holy fukk, you are retarded.

          • soldr3968 .

            Eat shit and die neanderthal/monkey hybrid.

            Sent from the iPhone of Mr. Marvin Tindle

          • ProudWitchMom

            Aaaaaaaannnnndddd that just proved your ignorance and stupidity right there… ppl like you and ur likewise uneducated friend here are what’s wrong with this messed up contry… practice what you preach prick

          • ProudWitchMom

            *country… damn typo… some people don’t gave the immune systems to fight such things. And if you pull out survival of the fittest you can F*** off. If it weren’t for modern medicine I would not be here today, not would my 2 beautiful, extremely smart and very loving children who I will make D*** sure do not become hateful fear-mongers like you and so many others like you

          • Nina Marrocco

            Lotta *cough* typo’s *cough* *cough* We don’t have the immune system’s because we are bombarded with toxin’s, heavy metal’s and GMO’s that are killing our immune system’s! Wake Up smelly witch!

          • Nina Marrocco

            Go to Hell Witch!

          • Chaos

            You first, cunt.

          • Chaos

            Suck on a grenade, cunt.

        • JGC

          ” Are you aware that most vaccines contain a substance called Polysorbate 80″

          soldr3968, your evidence that Polysorbate 80 is toxic or otherwise harmful at exposure levels achievable by routine childhood vaccination would be what, exactly? Be specific.

          I mean, you do actually have some, right? Or does your argument ultimately reduce to nothing other than “Ingredients! Scary stuff!”?

          • Nina Marrocco

            There is PLENTY of evidence just do some research as apparently you haven’t nor the other 4 that up voted your comment!

          • JGC

            I have ‘done the research’ as you suggest but have uncovered no evidence demonstrating that any of the ingredients in vaccine formulation are toxic or otherwise harmful at exposure levels achievable by routine childhood vaccination.

            If you’re aware of all-caps PLENTY of such evidence kindly indicate where it can be found.

          • Nina Marrocco

            YOU are a Total Moron or a Shill.

          • JGC

            Have fun with that whole name-calling thing–perhaps it works for you on some juvenile level.

            Just be aware that it does nothing to obscure the fact you have no actual evidence to offer in support of your claims, despite your assertion there’s all-caps PLENTY of it available.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ One Other Person Is Typing

            Why do you think that supporting your claim that you made yourself constitutes JGC doing his research?

        • FallsAngel

          Polysorbate 80? You mean that stuff in
          Ice Cream
          Wine
          Puddings
          Sauces
          Cosmetics
          Vitamins and other supplements?

          That stuff?
          http://thegoodhuman.com/what-is-polysorbate-80/

      • the dave

        Vaccines are clearly filled with poison – Anyone arguing FOR them, is under their influence and not to be taken seriously.

        • JGC

          Dave, what evidence demonstrates that the ingredients found in vaccine formulations are poisonous or otherwise harmful at exposure levels achievable by routine childhood vaccination?
          Be specific.

          • the dave

            Well I cant believe you dont know this but for starters, there’s 250 times the “safe” level of mercury aka thimerasol, in the vaccines meant for a 4 month old. How much more poisonous can you make it?

          • JGC

            “Well I cant believe you dont know this but for starters, there’s 250 times the “safe” level of mercury aka thimerasol, in the vaccines meant for a 4 month old. ”
            Citations needed, Dave: I hope you’re not mistaking an EPA exposure limit for mercury for an FDA/CDC exposure limit for thimerosal.

          • Nina Marrocco

            The whole point of this article is taking parental God given RIGHT’S away from parent’s and also constitutional RIGHT’S away as a people 2 MAJOR violation’s!!! We as the parent of our children have full say in what happen’s to our child PERIOD it IS Criminal and tyrannical for any other person to interfere with the Right’s of the parent, we just lost sight of that through the brainwashing of CFS and other such corrupt organization’s meant to indoctrinate us into their belief system turning us into mindless zombie’s who can’t think for ourselve’s therefore we become enslaved. Forget ALL of there CORRUPT organization’s. Vaccine’s ARE poisen, Children and Family Services are nothing but a Criminal Pedophelia sex trafficking organization RE: Nancy Schaefer
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mh04HG3Da4 these are the people who want your children if you disobey the Criminal system!! Nancy Schaefer and her husband were Murdered in 2010

          • JGC

            Exactly what right do you believe is being taken away from parents? Be specific. No one, you’ll recall, is forcing parents to vaccinate themselves or their children if they elect not to.

            “Vaccine’s ARE poisen”

            What evidence demonstrate that any of the ingredients found in vaccine formulations are toxic or otherwise harmful at exposure levels achievable by routine childhood vaccination? Be specific.

            “Children and Family Services are nothing but a Criminal Pedophelia sex trafficking organization”
            Citations truly, madly, desperately needed.

          • Nina Marrocco

            Are you Serious?!!!!

          • JGC

            Yes: I’m serious. Do you have any evidence that at exposure levels achievable by routine childhood vaccination any of the ingredients found in vaccine formulations are toxic or otherwise harmful?
            Because not only am I aware of none, no one I’ve asked this question of in the past has ever been able or willing to provide any.

        • Chaos

          You are clearly uneducated.
          Shame you don’t think.

          • the dave

            Shame you have nothing to bring to the table except an insult. That’s the sign of a weak or actually a non-existant argument.

            Speaking of uneducated, why in gods name would you EVER consider inject your or any other child with 250 times the amount of “safe” mercury? If it spills, it has to be dealt with as toxic waste with hazmat. But that’s what gets injected in a 4 month old. I don’t FEEL that uneducated – how about you?

          • JGC

            Please cite the FDA/CDC exposure limit for thimerosal, Dave (and recall that thimerosal and mercury are two entirely different things.)

        • Tyler Finvold

          Article study endorsed by two medical journals showing a massive trend in health problems from vaccines:

          http://www.ageofautism.com/2017/05/pilot-comparative-study-on-the-health-of-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-6-12-year-old-us-children.html

      • Nina Marrocco

        YOU are very Ignorant to say the least.

        • Chaos

          No, I’m highly educated. You’re the ignorant one.

        • Chaos

          O boy, a look at your profile shows that not only are you very uneducated, you are also a judgmental cunt that thinks you are the only one that is right when you are sooooo wrong.

      • Tyler Finvold

        There is a major study that actually proves unvaccinated kids are healthy in more ways than vaccinated kids. It was endorsed by two medical journals:

        http://www.ageofautism.com/2017/05/pilot-comparative-study-on-the-health-of-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-6-12-year-old-us-children.html

    • Paul Frohlich

      Socialism for you.

    • Chris Sky

      everything you said is right… except they are making TRILLIONS not millions.

    • Devon Beckham

      Disgraceful!

  • Elizabeth Schmeidler

    California, you don’t even slightly resemble the America our Founding Fathers fought for. Your ways are tyrannical. Your state favors those who break the laws and punishes those who have moral, religious, or personal convictions. You have sold out to the highest bidding liberals. You will not stand. You will not succeed. This law is a disgrace to these United States.

    • Michelle

      Help us shed a spotlight on this disgusting rat’s nest of corruption, pro-child abuse, and cash for kids, brought to you by America’s “leadership!”

      https://www.change.org/p/the-boston-globe-boston-globe-spotlight-team-please-cover-america-s-family-courts/c/614042384?recruiter=257499911&utm_source=comment_share&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=facebook_link

      • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle

        How do you explain every other country in the world?

    • soldr3968 .

      Your Founding Fathers were bigoted, sub-human slave-owners who devalued the lives of others simply b/c they were different. They were genocidists who fully supported destroying an already thriving indigenous/aboriginal people by any means necessary, then broke every single treaty they ever signed with a people who were seeking to live amicably and harmoniously with them. When you mention your Founding Fathers, I just think it important for you to know that your heroes were and are OUR MURDERERS, RAPISTS AND OPPRESSORS. Your militaries, on the orders of your Founding Fathers, ran down defenseless fleeing women with infants and school-age children on horses and shot them in the back, if they were lucky. I don’t think I need talk about the innumerable gang-rapes that took place involving pre-teen native girls. Founding Fathers MY ASS: I call them the TRUE SAVAGES!!!!

    • Devon Beckham

      Agreed

    • Jesse Childers

      Elizabeth, I live in california. You have no idea how bad it has gotten here. Please run for Congress and punish california. I hate CA sometimes.

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    • Elvira Brooks

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  • Courtney Guerrieri

    Hello??? How can I read this when the very first sentence is WRONG!! The bill has not even been introduced or assigned to committees yet. PLEASE don’t scare people with this headline. Yes, it’s a scary bill. but it HAS NOT PASSED, and if those of us here in California can make a big enough deal, we will prevent it from passing.

  • Deb

    Those under this choose not to vaccinate based on “research” or are negligent parents. The negligence will be addressed. Those who choose not to vaccinate their children based on “research”, will get a wake-up call! It is a proven fact that an unvaccinated child can get seriously ill or die from the diseases they aren’t vaccinated agsinst.These same children put other children (younger than them) at risk for serious illness or death. Diseases such as the measles and rubella are no joke! I’m glad California is taking a stand for public health and the health of children.

    • k3nw74

      Deb, you are clearly uneducated in this topic and it’s easy to see you’ve done no research outside of your television and Western mainstream media propaganda. Show me your sources for “proven facts”, and I’ll give you plenty in return that show otherwise. I cannot stop you from doing what you want to your children, but the moment you come and declare your ignorance and force these poisons into my child, you will forfeit your life. Talk all you want and make your ignorance known, but you will not destroy my children without a fight, and I stand by that.

      • nick quinlan

        Yes indeed. Deb is yet another brainwashed slave to the government propaganda, that has done no research on her own. Its a pity, there are too many just like her, and the children suffer because of ignorance of the true facts.

        • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle
          • Wendy Allen

            I have already researched vaccines for many years and have seen what vaccines did to friends/Autistic kids etc. You can read books about them and there are two vaccines series of videos about vaccines. There are many articles. Don’t expect a person to show all the research in a short comment on an article.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ One Other Person Is Typing

            I’d love to see your research. Where did you publish it? What journal? All the research? Hardly. Just some.

          • Wendy Allen

            Own research and stories from many people about their problems with vaccines which almost destroyed them. Published journals may be bias and not tell the truth. Drug companies may do the research to promote their product and don’t want bad data shown etc.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ One Other Person Is Typing

            Do you have any evidence at all for your claims?

            And you’ve done your own research so surely you know whether your own research is not biased so just link to your research in a journal?

            Can you explain the UK?

    • Aaron David

      You’re a psychopath Nazi, Deb. You have no soul.

    • Mark Meyers

      …” Next to toxic levels of brain-damaging aluminum salts, the researchers also found red blood cells of unknown origin and foreign, inorganic debris in aggregates, clusters, or free particles in every single human vaccine sample they tested.
      ” Further investigation revealed that the debris was composed of lead, stainless steel, chromium, tungsten, nickel, iron, zirconium, hafnium, strontium, antimony and other metals. Only one sample – an animal vaccine – came back clean.”…
      http://cdc.news/2017-03-27-report-toxic-heavy-metal-debris-found-in-vaccines.html
      And if you do more homework, you might find this is just the tip of the iceberg. 😉

    • nick quinlan
    • Trav

      Deb, kindly GTFO of here. “Those who choose not to vaccinate their children based on “research”, will get a wake-up call!” that is a threat of violence against parents and their children, a subtle passive threat. Screw you

    • Trav

      Deb, you know where you can stick the needle.

  • k3nw74

    If it’s worth their life to enforce such things. that is their choice and one that will offer deadly consequences.

    It sickens me that people do nothing and do not hold these politicians that are supposed to be for the people, accountable. They are paid and lobbied by big pharm to pass laws that support these companies. Keep sitting back, saying it doesn’t concern you or there’s nothing you can do. Soon enough, these types of bills will come into law.

    • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle
      • k3nw74

        Hey Derp, are you this uneducated and can’t figure it out? Bravo to you, you won the big idiot award. Please make sure to take all of your offspring down to the nearest vaccine location.

        • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle

          Why on earth do you think I have a responsibility to solve problems with your claims?

          • k3nw74

            Unfortunately Derp, it’s not worth much of my time to engage with you regarding your claims, and on the proven dangers of vaccinations, international studies and countries that have banned vaccinations (including those that are listed in your mainstream meme), the common-sense it takes to discuss the “why” behind every law protecting pharmaceutical companies, and the private “courtrooms” (if you want to call them that) where settlements are made regarding vaccine damages, and some of the deeper conspiracy theories that have very arguably valid points, etc. etc.

            At the end of the day, if you choose to vaccinate your children, that is your prerogative. Mandatory vaccinations is not the correct path, with so many blaring issues and valid concerns. My unvaccinated 12 year old daughter has NEVER been sick, and is in gifted classes. Only one of my unvaccinated twin boys has ever had a fever, which lasted a day and a half. There’s no need for my children to vaccinate against a sexually transmitted disease/virus, or any other virus that their awesome bodies and non-compromised, healthy immune systems can’t deter…especially with a healthy diet.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle

            “Unfortunately Derp, it’s not worth much of my time to engage with you regarding your claims,”

            Then don’t. Simply provide support for your claims. Whether you engage with me or not on my claims is irrelevant.

            “and on the proven dangers of vaccinations,”

            You seem to be under the impression that anyone has argued vaccinations are perfect. Whatever for?

            And you also seem to be under the impression that you can make a proper risk/risk benefit in isolation.

            ” international studies and countries that have banned vaccinations (including those that are listed in your mainstream meme), ”

            Cite them, please. And this is just a matter of you providing support for your claims.

            “the common-sense it takes to discuss the “why” behind every law protecting pharmaceutical companies, and the private “courtrooms” (if you want to call them that) where settlements are made regarding vaccine damages, and some of the deeper conspiracy theories that have very arguably valid points, etc. etc.”

            Again, provide support for your claims.

            “At the end of the day, if you choose to vaccinate your children and believe everything your told, that is your prerogative.”

            Not really relevant to your claims.

            ” Mandatory vaccinations is not the correct path,”

            Cite the mandatory vaccine countries. Mind, I’m looking for mandatory here as in jail or fines (and no, not receiving money for not doing something is not at all the same thing as a fine). Again, this is about your claims.

            ” with so many blaring issues and valid concerns. ”

            Such as?

            “My unvaccinated 12 year old daughter has NEVER been sick, and is in gifted classes. Only one of my unvaccinated twin boys has ever had a fever, which lasted a day and a half. ”

            3 kids! Even Wakefield had a larger sample size than that.

            “There’s no need for my children to vaccinate against a sexually transmitted disease/virus, or any other virus that their awesome bodies and non-compromised, healthy immune systems can’t deter…especially with a healthy diet.”

            Please, can you explain the specific mechanism behind how the healthy diet converts the slower sluggish primary immune response to say….measles….into a quicker, more vigorous secondary immune response? Again, this is your claim.

            What sexually-transmitted disease are you referring to?

            Also, I have to wonder….given that your children have such awesome bodies and non-comprised healthy immune systems …why on earth you think they would have trouble with dead, weakened or pieces of pathogens?

            Also, it’s interesting that they don’t have natural immunity to anything.

          • k3nw74

            I’ve done my research, and I have my facts and information. As stated previously, I am not going to waste my time with someone who clearly has no inclination of discovering the truth for themselves, regarding diet, disease, etc. Everything I posted in the previous comment can be easily researched if you cared to know, or at least question the narrative you’re told to believe. I run a multi-million dollar business and don’t have the time to pull up 100’s of sources for someone who can’t see past their own television, not to mention I have spent years researching this topic and it’s quite overwhelming to even begin translating information in a commenting board to someone who clearly has their mind made up. I am not your educator, this is your responsibility. Your disagreement will not change my life.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle

            “I’ve done my research, and I have my facts and information.”

            Great, provide them.

            “I am not your educator, this is your responsibility.”

            Being my educator or not has nothing to do with it. It is absolutely not my responsibility to disprove or prove claims that you made.

            They are YOUR claims that YOU made. Providing evidence for them is your responsibility. Evidence you cannot or will not provide is functionally equivalent to no evidence at all.

          • k3nw74

            This isn’t a court of law, and you are not on trial, nor am I for our beliefs and information. If you choose to disagree, you’re entitled. You asked for sources, I replied to do your research. Outside of our mainstream media, this information is not hidden from the world to discover on their own. When you’re told a narrative, do you simply trust them, or do you research the topic/question at hand? No one held my hand, I questioned and researched…I suggest you do the same. And yes, those are my claims as previously stated, and I stand by them.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle

            “This isn’t a court of law, and you are not on trial, nor am I for our beliefs and information.”

            Doesn’t matter. It’s just basic logic.

            “. You asked for sources, I replied to do your research.”

            Which is precisely the problem.

            “Outside of our mainstream media, this information is not hidden from the world to discover on their own. ”

            And yet you don’t have time to tell me where you found it.

            “When you’re told a narrative, do you simply trust them, or do you research the topic/question at hand?”

            You know what I do, I ask them for evidence.

            “No one held my hand, I questioned and researched..”

            So? Two wrongs don’t make a right.

            “I suggest you do the same.”

            I am. I questioned what evidence you have. Not my fault if you have to keep dodging the question.

            ” And yes, those are my claims as previously stated, and I stand by them.”

            Except that I didn’t ask you whether you stood by them or not I asked whether you had evidence for them.

            If you don’t have time to cite 100’s of sources, then just cite the two single best sources that you have. What are they?

            By the way, where is your research published?

          • k3nw74

            I apologize that I don’t carry a reference book to and from my office daily for trolls. I have not dodged any comment you made, I replied for you to do your research, since it matters so much to you. Easy enough. At this stage, I have no concern whether you research or not, let alone to gather my resources for you.

            By your own post of your meme, do the math and see what the pharmaceutical companies profited off vaccinations, not to mention the damage done and the cost to parents and insurance companies that the medical industry profits from. The anti-vax movement is very damaging to their industry, and people all over the world are waking up to this. Your meme conveniently converted the $48m to a cost, and avoided the profits the pharmaceutical industry brought in as a whole.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c130cc76eddfc381705d7df2933291f86edfba653b15beef3bb6a93b92945cdd.png No, kw3n74, it is your responsibility to support the claims that you made. That simple. It’s not for me at all.

            It’s YOUR responsibility to provide the evidence for your claims that you made. That simple.

            All the people who do the research say you’re wrong so….

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/95e25c72c9da10f780a72073158784ca3e4b0bcba989270c90d96945733e575a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/28da9f9ffdbd93d9c3d0bce5e6be76224a86f59b2121c613f32450a0e73ced9c.png

          • k3nw74

            I can see you know nothing. Feel free to post your sources for your memes.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle

            1)Does not need a source since it’s a simple logic walk-through.

            2) Stuckler, David; Feigl, Andrea B.; Basu, Sanjay; McKee, Martin (November 2010). “The political economy of universal health coverage. Background paper for the First Global Symposium on Health Systems Research, 16–19 November 2010, Montreaux, Switzerland” (PDF). Pacific Health Summit. Seattle: National Bureau of Asian Research. p. 16. Figure 2. Global Prevalence of Universal Health Care in 2009; 58 countries: Andorra, Antigua, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Belarus, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Botswana, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Kuwait, Luxembourg, Moldova, Mongolia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Oman, Panama, Portugal, Romania, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, Tunisia, UAE, Ukraine, United Kingdom, Venezuela.

            Tran, Mark (December 13, 2012), “Global development,Health (Society),Society,United Nations (News),World news” , The Guardian, London

            “Algeria – Health And Welfare” . Countrystudies.us. Retrieved November 14, 2011.

            http://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Publications/Algeria%20Profile.pdf

            “Botswana:The Health System – AHO” . Retrieved November 30, 2016.

            “In Rwanda, Health Care Coverage That Eludes the U.S.” . Opinionator (blog of The New York Times). Archived from the original on 2014-02-03.

            “Health care in South Africa” . SouthAfrica.info. Retrieved November 14, 2011.

            “The healthcare system in Tunisia” . Retrieved November 30, 2016.

            “National Health Policy: Ministry of Health” (PDF).

            “Introduction to healthcare in Bahrain” . Justlanded.com. Retrieved November 14, 2011.

            3)The sources are literally right there.

          • k3nw74

            That’s funny… a few quick clicks/searches leads to nothing of any studies, their sources, or who funded them…. what am I missing?

            And a few of your sourced articles are from other mainstream outlets that push pro-vaccination agenda (NYT, WHO, etc.) …what did you expect to see?

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle

            Competent googling skills, apparently.
            Claims stand or fall on their own merits

            http://www.nhis.gov.gh/

            EVIDENCE, obviously. And what is your evidence that they are inappropriately pro-vax?

          • k3nw74
          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle

            Re: Your health news wire….courts don’t decide science – they decide law. But since you decided they do decide science, here!

            http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/measles-denier-made-pay/

            The comment (about six publications) is laughably wrong too as a quick ferret in Google Scholar would inform you.

            https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=%22measles+virus%22+%22serotype%22&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5

            Oh and a supreme court in Germany doesn’t

            Health Impact News can’t manage Yr7-Yr8 chemistry. Next.

            Still, I must ask…why could you not cite these before?

          • k3nw74

            “why could you not cite these before?”

            These are not sources for the damages that vaccines cause. I simply saw the article, found it interesting, verified this wasn’t a fake story, and linked it for you. The courts didn’t decide science, they appointed a qualified staff to review/study/etc. Not sure why you choose the route of “courts don’t decide science”, if you had actually read the article and verified those that were appointed and their studies?

            May have to translate; https://brd-schwindel.org/der-bundesgerichtshof-hat-entschieden-wir-haben-den-masern-virus-prozess-endgueltig-gewonnen/

            …check updates to your links, it may help you next time in your attempts.

            “Health Impact News can’t manage Yr7-Yr8 chemistry.”

            Don’t dismiss information unless you can prove it’s incorrect. Your comment is nothing better than dismissing without researching.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle

            I don’t think you get it: It is not in the remit of courts to decide science.

            I can prove that salt doesn’t explode when you add it to soup hence compounds are not elements hence Chemistry of HI is wrong..

            But again, you still seem to be under the impression that it is my responsibility to research your claims. You make the assertion, your burden of proof.

            I have already researched HI and found it wrong. That simple.

          • k3nw74

            My initial comment that started our interaction had nothing to do with claims, more of a remark of sorts. You posted the meme with inaccurate/skewed information, with no sources, and your next reply after claimed I had to provide evidence? You attempted to discredit me or my comments with childish tactics. And the court appointed a panel that, I’m pretty sure, is more credible than you. That simple.

            “I have already researched HI and found it wrong.”
            Where’s your sources the article is incorrect? I’d like to be educated…unless you have none?

            Good day, troll.

          • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle

            It is not the court’s job to decide science in the first place.

  • Michelle
  • Georgia Girl

    Anybody with any sense will leave that place…Truly communist rule.

  • Joan

    Maybe you should do your research. This is in Committee and if you bother reading the bill text, nothing would allow any illegal search without an appropriate warrant. A.K.A. Fake News.

    • Chris Sky

      “An appropriate warrant” which would be obtained as easily as finding out that their children “arent’ up to date” on their MANDATED VACCINATIONS… that’s how “hard” it will be to get a warrant. lol fuck people are sooo god damn stupid.

  • GrandDaddy

    People in California need to start shooting these needle-pushing freaks right off their doorstep.

    THANK GOD I LIVE IN ARIZONA AND MY KIDS ARE GROWN.

    Or I’d be on the news, in Wikipedia, a meme on Facebook, and getting marriage proposals on Death Row like Charlie Manson.
    I’d be a cliche, a legend, the inspiration for many new laws…mothers would tell their children to eat their greens so they don’t turn out like me. Adults would double check their door locks, and kids would cry themselves to sleep hoping I didn’t come through the chimney to dismember their needle-pushing parents.

    Demons would vacate their lairs on hearing my footsteps, and California lawmakers would call for air support.
    Yep. Good thing I live in Arizona and my kids are grown, and smart enough to keep the needle-pushers away from my grandchildren.

    Because my default condition is ASSHOLE. It takes everything I have to try to think like Jesus and act like a Christian. If I stop for even one minute,
    I give Charlie the creeps.

    But a bureaucrat with self-appointed authority on my doorstep, coming in to assess my worthiness to keep my children… that officious little stain would be on a suicide mission.

    • Lola Ann Feagin

      By far BEST comment on any story i have ever read!

  • soldr3968 .

    Why bother with the debates when you’ll do absolutely nothing? The line has been ‘drawn in the sand’ yet you sit comfortably behind your keyboards ‘venting’. Ha ha. You’re all laughable, and to date, the best comedy show going. One really couldn’t write better comedy than what the American public allows their ‘elected’ officials to get away with. But then, I guess you are busy with your countless holidays and their preparation, and those ‘roman games’ you call the NBA, NFL, etc. Oh, and let’s not forget the insane taxing going on that keeps your noses to the grindstone the rest of the time. Your government and political offices have become “Self-Aware” and have been creating policy to protect themselves FROM YOU, and its working. Answer?

  • Roger Long

    Anybody, and I do mean anybody who pushes their way into my home will be shot. I have no children and it’s me, the wife and my dogs. If you’re not invited, don’t come. PS, I don’t like government people, state or federal.

    • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

      Ooh, we got a badass over here, watch out, everybody!

  • Lana Liz

    This is an incorrect description of SB18. Read it here: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB18

  • DO

    When they do they should be carried out dead. There are no “authorities”
    we are not slaves and do not need to be treated as slaves.Making slave
    laws is illegal and unconstitutional and should be meat with the death
    of those that try to enforce them as “authorities”. The use of the word
    “Authorities” show that you believe you are a slave to others and also
    shows how much of Police State you live in. Slave drivers were called
    “Authority” for their use in having complete control over the slaves. If
    you believe anyone has complete control over you-you have given up your
    life to them. THERE IS NO ONE THAT HOLDS AUTHORITY OVER ANYONE. THOSE
    THAT BELIEVE THEY DO SHOULD BE SHOOT ON SITE. THOSE THAT MAKE SLAVE LAWS
    AS THIS ONE IS SHOULD BE SHOT ON SITE.

  • JohnHolmes13

    Someone needs to beat the crap out of Pan. He is such a loser…I hope he drops dead of small cox.

  • thepaintedchairshop

    ever hear of a thing called bill of rights. or our constitution. to live free in the pursuit of happiness or our basic God given natural rights. any law that contradicts these is in violation of each of our rights.

    • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle

      Does the law about not shouting fire in a crowded theatre when it’s not actually ablaze curtail your rights?

  • Stace325

    One state at a time.

  • Chris Sky

    California… jewish Home Base in USA… hence why they want it flooded with as many non americans as possible… makes it much easier for the Zi0nist’s to control their G0ylm

    • Teri Van Horn

      Haters will hate. Unfortunately hatred is very contagious

      • Chris Sky

        Hahahahaha. Yes it’s an “accident” that California has the most draconian health laws, massive illegal immigration and horrible gun laws….. And the most “unfriendly” business laws in the USA. It’s not because of whose in control… nope it’s because “haters”

        Ridiculous

    • http://www.illuminati-r-us.com/ Reality022

      Yay!
      Here’s a fine example of the anti-vaccine cult. If they can believe one noxious conspiracy (vaccines are NWO poison) they likely subscribe to other, equally noxious and loony conspiracies (Jooos run the world. Khemtrails. Fluoride. 9/11 Was an Inside Job, etc.).

      Well done, Chris Sky.
      Now trot on back to InfoWarts for your daily dose of fake news.

      • Chris Sky

        Spoken like a wonderful hasbara shill, straight from your dorm room 🙂

        I guess it’s a “conspiracy theory” that the only DUAL CiTIZENS allowed in the “US” government, “happen” to be Israelis? 😀

        That’s quite the “special privilege” that the Jewish people enjoy, in controlling the usa!
        Imagine a “senator” with dual citizenship with China? Or Russia? …. But a Jewish, Israeli dual citizen (dozens) in the “US” government… perfectly acceptable!

        See how facts, common sense, and truth easily clear up the Watters shills like you intentionally muddy 🙂

        • http://www.illuminati-r-us.com/ Reality022

          Chris Sky babbled, “I guess it’s a “conspiracy theory” that the only DUAL CiTIZENS allowed in the “US” government, “happen” to be Israelis?”

          Really? Are you sure?
          How would you know?

          You mean Israelis (/sarc) like Ted Cruz (US-Canada dual)?:
          time(dot)com/2854513/ted-cruz-canadian-citizenship/

          and Michelle Bachmann? (US-Swiss dual)?:
          politico(dot)com/story/2012/05/bachmann-swiss-citizen-since-1978-076142

          To their credit they renounced their dual, but there is nothing illegal in them having it and members of congress do not have to disclose if they are dual citizens
          That allowance is absurd and should be disallowed as it is a direct conflict of interest, but dual citizens from many nations are allowed into congress… we just don’t know which ones are duals because they don’t have to tell.

          Chris Sky also drooled, “See how facts, common sense, and truth easily clear up the Watters shills like you intentionally muddy”
          Yeah, Chris, it certainly is wonderful how facts and truth are pretty easy to find on the internet if one only stops going to fringe conspiracy sites and faces reality.

          • Chris Sky

            so you compare 2 government members who RENOUNCED their citizenship… to the DOZENS of DUAL CITIZEN ISRAELIs in government? 😀

            especially when “Jews” make up less than 1% of the US population… but DOZENS of their DUAL CITIZENS are in the Government… and the largest, most powerful government lobby group just “happens” to be “AIPAC”… and Israel just “happens” to get the USA to borrow billions per year and send it over as “aid”…. and the USA just “happens” to go to war in the middle east at no benefit to itself with all of Israel’s enemies… wasting trillions, killing millions and having the number 1 cause of US soldier death be SUICIDE because they can’t live with them self.

            Then there’s the fact that ISrael has almost 1 UN war Crime Charge for each year it has existed… only to be “saveD” by US Veto from prosecution DOZENS of times.

            then lets look at the BANKS shall we… the FED made up of PRIVATE BANKS like “Goldman Sachs” (jewish and Jewish) that just “happens” to have a vast majority of Jews on their board of directors! (1% of the population yet almost 75% of Goldman Sachs) and the same at “morgan Stanley” “Wells Fargo” “JP Morgan Chase” or any other banks named after the Jewish people who stared them 😀
            it’s a “Conspiracy Theory” though that Jews are the most powerful and influential people in the USA… and it’s totally a “conspiracy” that Israel uses, and manipulates the USA and it’s people for it’s own benefit 😀

            come on hasbara.. you can do better than that. Deny all the truths i put forth and call me an anti semite, quick… my facts are obliterating your propaganda.

            … and don’t forget virtually EVERY “Anti Gun” politician… is a Jew.

            Boxer, Feinstein, Schumer, Cantor, Bloomberg, Lautenberg, Levin, Emmanuel, Blumenthal, Nacheman, Gross, Rosenthal, Dershowitz,

            gee I wonder why they all want to take American’s guns?
            Gee I wonder why they control the Banks, and put Americans in 20 trillion dollas of debt
            gee I wonder why Israel gets more foreign aid than virtually all other nations combined…
            gee I wonder why the US government is flooded with dual citizens that make up a fraction of the population.

            maybe it’s because the Jews have quite a bit of INFLUENCE and POWER over the usa? nawww… that’s just a “conspiracy theory” for “Anti Semites” 😀

  • ned kelly

    OMG thank goodness my 4 kids are grown up, + also did their homework about vacs, + didnt have their kids done either.

  • Sik2012

    Section 1c doesn’t say that. I think he’s referring to section 1.a.3. Which states

    “The right for a child’s parents,including pregnant women or parents of children birth to age 5,and child victims of crimes, to access evidence-based, voluntary home visitation programs, such as comprehensive,coordinated in-home services that are offered to support positive parenting,and to improve outcomes for families including: improved maternal and child health, prevention of child injuries,child abuse and maltreatment,and reduction of emergency department visits, improvement in school readiness and achievement, reduction in crime or domestic violence, improvements in family economic self-sufficiency, and improvements in the coordination and referrals for other community resources and supports.”

    Whereas section 1.c and section 1.d state the following

    (c) Nothing in this section shall be interpreted to supplant any federal program or service.

    (d) Nothing in this section shall be interpreted to limit a parent’s rights under state or federal law.

  • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ Derp Turtle
  • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

    Okay, so, uh…where’s the part of the bill that authorizes home visits if parents don’t want them? Oh, there isn’t one? Whoops, my mistake, I expected the article to have some relation to the bill it’s talking about, silly me!

  • JGC

    “The rights of a child’s parents to access evidence-based, voluntary home visitation programs such as comprehensive, coordinated home services that are offered to support positive parenting and improve outcomes for families including: improved maternal and child health, prevention of child injuries, child abuse and maltreatment and reduction of emergency department visits, improvement in school readiness and achievement, reduction in crime or domestic violence, improvements in family economic self-sufficiency and improvements in the coordination and referrals for other community resources and support”

    What part of the word ‘voluntary’ is the author failing to understand?

  • dejan zanko

    but why how i just cant understand democracy is to fakng bizare

  • Tina McNeal

    Alright it’s not just going to happen in California it will be everywhere if this goes thru, just another way for the Government to control you it will be do as we say or we take your children. These people have no right to say there way to raise kids is the right way. And with some people getting their children inoculated is against there religion so once again it’s control the Government wants control. Congress should have a term limit like the President

  • Kimberly Leared

    How do we stop this? Is there a petition online going or anything?

  • Cole

    It’s all about the dollars. It’s always the dollars.

  • http://xpectamiracle.blogspot.com/ Laura Gagnon

    This makes me so angry! Prayer warriors, please visit my page for a powerful prayer to help overturn these injustices on our civil liberties.
    http://xpectamiracle.blogspot.com/2017/07/help-overturn-destructive-laws-appeal.html

  • https://autisticagainstantivaxxers.wordpress.com/2017/04/07/submissions/ One Other Person Is Typing

    Where can I read the statute?

  • JGC

    The title is deliberately misleading: the bill actually allows a child’s parents to access evidence based home visitation programs without regard for the vaccination status of the child. Government agencies already have the authority to enter homes where there is probable cause to believe a child is at risk.