Historic Chemtrails Lawsuit Filed In Canada

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Chemtrails lawsuit filed in Canada

An historic lawsuit has been filed in Canada in an effort to expose and halt the practise of chemtrails being sprayed into the atmosphere. 

The suit claims that the Canadian and US governments are conducting a geoengineering program that aims to spray toxic substances and particles into the atmosphere – endangering the lives of millions of citizens.

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For over a year GeoengineeringWatch.org has been communicating with and forwarding data to Canadian attorneys (in addition to the US team of attorneys we are working with) in the effort to get legal action in motion.

This effort has now reached fruition, Geoengineering Watch wishes to express our most sincere gratitude to the attorneys in Canada (and the US attorneys) for their diligent and ongoing work in this most critical battle. Excerpts from the Canadian legal filing are below.

CLAIM

Nature of the Proceeding:

1. This is a mass-tort and environmental Proposed Class Proceeding in respect of the spraying into the atmosphere of toxic substances and particulates by the Defendant that is dangerous to human health, destructive to the environment, and has caused meaningful economic damages.

A Declaration that the aerial discharge of coal fly ash and/or other contaminants contravenes the Canadian Environmental Protection Act and appurtenant Regulations;

A Declaration that the aerial discharge of coal fly ash and/or other contaminants contravenes the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms;

c. An interlocutory and a final mandatory order directing that the Defendant comply with the Canadian Environmental Protection Act and appurtenant Regulations;

An interlocutory and a final mandatory order directing that the Defendant comply with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms;

An interlocutory and a final mandatory Order that the Defendant immediately cease and desist the ongoing aerial discharge of coal fly ash and/or other contaminants or substances;

Facts:

On various dates, the Plaintiff observed that certain aircraft discharged trails comprising of white particulate like matter (“Aerial Discharge”), and which Aerial Discharge would persist and often span across the horizon and across the length of the sky.

The Aerial Discharges slowly dissipated, formed a thin, hazy film across the sky, and would obfuscate the sun’s rays.

The Aerial Discharges dissipate across ranges of altitudes, including lower altitudes. Thus, the Aerial Discharges dissipate in the lower altitudes which include the air that the Plaintiff, his family and the potential members of the Class breath.

The Plaintiff pleads that the Aerial Discharges are comprised of minute particles that are toxic and/or are easily absorbed into the body and the environment, and are thus dangerous when absorbed into the body or the environment.

The Plaintiff pleads that the Defendant, and/or her agent’s or instrumentalities perform the Aerial Discharges over Canadian air space.

The Plaintiff further pleads that the Defendant knows or ought to know that the Aerial Discharges are dangerous.

Negligence

11. The Plaintiff relies on his pleadings above.

12. The Plaintiff pleads that the Defendant has a duty to not perform actions that are dangerous to the Plaintiff and proposed Members of the Class. The Plaintiff reiterates his pleadings that the Defendant engaged in the performance of the Aerial Discharges, the Aerial Discharges are dangerous, and that the Defendant knew or ought to have known that the Aerial Discharges are dangerous.

The Defendant has breached her duties to the Plaintiff and the proposed Class by engaging in the performance of the Aerial Discharges.

The Plaintiff further pleads that the Defendant’s actions have caused meaningful damages to the Plaintiff and the proposed Class Members. The damages include, inter alia, serious injury and, in some cases, death;
emotional and psychological trauma; non-pecuniary damages; pecuniary damages; and loss of income.

Nuisance and Trespass

The Plaintiff relies on his pleadings above.
The Plaintiff reiterates his pleadings that the Aerial Discharges are performed by the Defendant in Canadian air space.

The Plaintiff also reiterates his pleadings that the Aerial Discharges dissipate into the lower atmosphere.

As a result, the Plaintiff pleads that the Aerial Discharges permeate and saturate the air breathed-in by the Plaintiff and potential Class Members, and thus, cause serious health problems and injuries.

Further, the Plaintiff pleads that the Aerial Discharges also infect, saturate and damage the environment, public property and private property.

Additionally, the Plaintiff pleads that the Aerial Discharges interfere and impede with the quiet use and enjoyment of the property of the Plaintiff and the potential Class Members.

The Plaintiff pleads that as a result of the foregoing, the Plaintiff and potential Class Members are entitled to the relief sought in paragraph 4 herein.

The Plaintiff proposes that this action be tried in the City of Toronto.

The efforts toward legal action in the US are also pressing forward as rapidly as possible, we hope to have initiation of the US filing underway in the next few weeks.

Support for the non profit “Stop Geoengineering Legal Defense Fund” is critical in order to keep the legal efforts moving forward. Our legal efforts are not affiliated with any other groups, organizations, or websites.

Though the forward momentum of the legal efforts are extremely important and valuable to the cause of exposing and halting climate engineering, it is imperative for activists in the field to understand and remember that the front line grassroots awareness raising efforts are still critically important, now more than ever. Exposure of the legal effort needs to be circulated as widely as possible.

This will assist with alerting activists and the public to the ongoing court proceedings which will hopefully help with producing mass public attendance at such proceedings. Reaching a critical mass of awareness on the geoengineering issue is the great imperative of our time, all are needed in this effort.

Waking the still sleeping masses to the ongoing atmospheric aerosol assault MUST BE our TOP PRIORITY, please, help us in this all important battle to sound the alarm.

708 Comments

      • Well Done William! How does it feels like to be remembered as a sheeple in the human record of evolution in a not so distant future!

        • How does it feel to be remembered as an out-of-touch-with-reality conspiracy nutter in the record of evolution in a not so distant future?
          Hell, how does it feel to be known as an out-of-touch-with-reality conspiracy nutter today?

          • record of evolution -.o?
            don’t you mean records of history?….

            also quick note , the data indicates we have less than 9 years of life support left on this planet if we don’t drastically change our course of action most important of which is to stop the ongoing global aerosol geoengineering experiments….

            if we don’t do that then there wont be any records of evolution or history or any of that shit left to be remembered cause everything will be dead…..

          • Did you bother to read any of that OVERWHELMING proof that you are an absolutely blind government paid troll? It’s all right there. Great job Valchrist, you conspiracy nutter, putting so much undeniable proof at his feet.

          • Another fine case of a conspiracy nutter not being able to see the difference between a theory and a fact. Contrary to your conspiracy nutter beliefs, I’m not getting paid anything by anyone for posting here, I’m just an intelligent guy who points out the countless flaws in your paranoid, delusional theories.

            Would be nice though if the US government would transfer a bit of that military budget to my bank account. I could use the money.

        • Remembered as a “sheeple” by those who I’ll remember as pathetic paranoid losers who refuse to learn basic science?
          Fine by me!

        • I don’t know…I’m sure you will let me know. You believe in chemtrails because you trust OTHER ignorant losers.

    • Well Done William! How does it feels like to be remembered as a sheeple in the human record of evolution in a not so distant future!

    • How does it feel to be remembered as an out-of-touch-with-reality conspiracy nutter in the record of evolution in a not so distant future?
      Hell, how does it feel to be known as an out-of-touch-with-reality conspiracy nutter today?

    • record of evolution -.o?
      don’t you mean records of history?….

      also quick note , the data indicates we have less than 9 years of life support left on this planet if we don’t drastically change our course of action most important of which is to stop the ongoing global aerosol geoengineering experiments….

      if we don’t do that then there wont be any records of evolution or history or any of that shit left to be remembered cause everything will be dead…..

    • Did you bother to read any of that OVERWHELMING proof that you are an absolutely blind government paid troll? It’s all right there. Great job Valchrist, you conspiracy nutter, putting so much undeniable proof at his feet.

    • Another fine case of a conspiracy nutter not being able to see the difference between a theory and a fact. Contrary to your conspiracy nutter beliefs, I’m not getting paid anything by anyone for posting here, I’m just an intelligent guy who points out the countless flaws in your paranoid, delusional theories.

      Would be nice though if the US government would transfer a bit of that military budget to my bank account. I could use the money.

    • Remembered as a “sheeple” by those who I’ll remember as pathetic paranoid losers who refuse to learn basic science?
      Fine by me!

    • As a Commonwealth nation, the defendant’s legal title would be “Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith”.

      Anonymous “Tony” you have committed a legal fraud.

    • As a Commonwealth nation, the defendant’s legal title would be “Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith”.

      Anonymous “Tony” you have committed a legal fraud.

  1. And (as indicated in the claim) it is filed in federal court which has jurisdiction in actions against the crown.

    • It has been drafted but cannot be lodged without court testable evidence. There is no evidence presented in support of the claim so cannot be lodged. I hope Wigington tries to lodge and is prosecuted for attempting to lodge a frivolous claim.

  2. And (as indicated in the claim) it is filed in federal court which has jurisdiction in actions against the crown.

    • It has been drafted but cannot be lodged without court testable evidence. There is no evidence presented in support of the claim so cannot be lodged. I hope Wigington tries to lodge and is prosecuted for attempting to lodge a frivolous claim.

  3. Fortunately some of us didn’t sleep through high school chemistry and understand little things like water vapor, dew points and dust particles.

    • Hm. Sounds to me like you did sleep and still are. Explain to me and show me how vapor persists. Please do oh wise one. Get your likely fat ass off your seat and actually try to duplicate the evidence that has been presented for years. Step into a deep freeze, set that mutha to -45 and get in there and show us how vapor persists even for a couple minutes. If and when you do maybe you’ll have some credibility. Till then you have none.

        • Well enough to know the difference and recognize the irregularities. Why ask the question? Take a bottle of what ever particles you like with you and show us. Replicate what is obvious to you to be a very regular set of circumstances that are filmed around the world daily and create for us a persistent vapor trail. It’s gotta last at least couple of minutes if you want any credibility.. Go ahead, if you succeed you will have unravelled the mystery of the persistent contrail. You’ll be famous. So?? I’ll be waiting.

          • Ah yes, the typical conspiracy nutter approach: rather than making claims and providing the evidence proving them right, they make claims and then demand that people prove them wrong. Unfortunately for you, that’s not how it works. If you want to accuse the government of some massive conspiracy, it’s up to you to prove it.

            BTW, you can’t duplicate persistent vapor trails in a freezer. Temperature is just one of the factors involved, other factors include weather patterns, air currents, and air pressure. I don’t know of any regular deep freeze that can replicate all involved atmospheric conditions.

          • Ah yes, the typical ignorant contributor to homicidal genocide. Do you really hate your loved ones that much? An apologist that would run with the flock straight over the edge of the abyss. Don’t worry, we know your not alone but you are a minority these days. Evidence is there guess you just don’t know how to read.
            Oh yea, you can duplicate this so called natural effect if it’s natural as you say. It’s called using a micro climate. So go ahead and show us. Take a fan in with you as well if you must. I am still waiting.

          • Since you seem to believe you have all the answers, answer this question: why would the government (or whoever) want to spray chemicals from 30,000 feet to commit genocide?

            First, spraying chemicals from high altitude for that purpose would be extremely inefficient and expensive; if you want to commit genocide, there are far more efficient ways to do it.

            Second, genocide would be counter productive, because if the ruling elite would wipe out the population, they wouldn’t have people left to rule over and work for them.

            Third, the ruling elite would kill themselves in the process, as they eat the same food, drink the same water, and breathe the same air as the plebs.

            As for your claim that “the evidence is there”: where is it, then? You conspiracy nutters keep claiming there’s evidence, but you consistently fail to show it. The only “evidence” your kind kinda sorta produces are links to other conspiracy websites and YouTube videos by other conspiracy nutters.

          • Do you believe it to be a simple linear equation? Only one purpose? No. Read the decades of related patented materials. Don’t bother with the “it’s just a patent”. Patents are filed with intended purpose.
            What do you consider to be “High Altitude”? Troposphere or Stratosphere. Both are accessible with current tech. David Keith would disagree with you and believes it would be very efficient and inexpensive considering.
            You think they would all drop over night? What are you? A conspiracy nutter?
            You believe there have been no significant accomplishments in medical industry and that care is equal for all? No way to filter blood? No way to access high grade organic food or specialists?
            And finally, do you need me to wipe your ass too? Globally we have had Scientists, Pilots, Air Force staff, Politicians, Congressional and Presidential papers, NASA and the list goes on have all come out over the decades. Decades worth of pictures, video, independent lab tests and the list goes on. People around the world taking notice as countries that were not affected by geoengineering are now. Australia and New Zealand being 2 I have noted in the past couple of years. Go visit Geoengineeringwatch.org.
            Have yourself a blissfully ignorant day you nutter you. 🙂

          • dude’s an obvious shill bro (or troll) , just dismiss their dismissal point to evidence and make sure it’s known they’re a shill , im pretty sure that would be easier for other people reading this to realize the description going on here , as opposed to actually taking what a shill says seriously and trying to rebut it……

          • Go visit Geoengineeringwatch. Riiiiight. As always with conspiracy nutters, they think links to other conspiracy nutter websites qualify as ‘evidence.’ You seem oblivious to the stupidity of that, so let me create a scenario following your method, in such a way that even you can understand.

            I post on a website that you are a rapist, a child molester, and a child murderer. Someone else posts the same story on an other website. When you then ask for proof for those accusations, I simply point to the other person’s website. Because, hey, it’s posted there as well, so it must be true!

          • You are an obvious troll. Not a very good one so I hope they doc your pay on this fail but very obviously by your comments did not even look at the site filled with material on this subject. I’m ok with that and I’m ok with the blind and willing as well. Enjoy.

          • not only does he not even bother to look at any links provided to him , but he then hilariously continued to claim they were all conspiracy websites , when the links i provided were from scientific research organizations , i even pasted the mission statement from one of them in my reply for everyone here to see , that the only conspiracy nut-job here is himself

            he’s an internet forum shill though , the lowest grade of shill , he’s already getting paid so little that if his paymasters doced it , he would be doing this shilling work for free :l ….

            however , a silver lining i see in all of this , is that we’re winning , information revelation is starting to win back over information suppression , and the lack of munitions for arguments for the shills such as the one we’re replying to here is proof of that , so keep up the good fight my brother…..

          • Actually, I did follow those links. And then I entered the various website names in Google, in combination with words like ‘quack,’ ‘hoax,’ and ‘conspiracy.’ Unfortunately for you, those websites aren’t the sites of real scientific ‘research organisations’ but conspiracy nutter websites. And fancy mission statements are just that: fancy mission statements. The crap people like Carnicom publish only proves that they’re paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutters.

          • woah ok clam down there ms crazy conspiracy theorist , not every site in the world is out to get you by fabricating things about the reality of the history of geoengineering we have on this planet that you’re paid to deny

            http://www.weathermodification.org/
            https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130314141014.htm
            http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/12/8/9375
            and for lots more links
            http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/documents-2/

            bitch i told you to take your pick i got more…..

          • Do you seriously believe that Tin Foil Hat sites like, say, geoengineeringwatch.com, become reliable sources if you just post links to it often enough? That’s not going to work; the sky is blue, and even if you post a million links to conspiracy websites that claim the sky is purple, it’s still blue.

            I do indeed deny your idiotic claims about ‘chemtrails’ because there’s no evidence whatsoever for that conspiracy. There’s a huge difference between chemicals ending up in the atmosphere as a side effect of something else (like air traffic), and the government (or whatever other organistation) deliberately spraying chemicals to mind-control us, wipe us out, or whatever othger version of the chemtrails hoax you believe in.

            And contrary to your paranoid beliefs, I’m not getting paid anything by anyone for trying to educate you. Would be nice though if I’d get paid for it, I could use the money. 🙂

          • congratulations on calling this
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            About MDPI

            MDPI (Multidisciplinary Digital Publishing Institute) is an academic open-access publisher with headquarters in Basel, Switzerland. Additional offices are located in Beijing and Wuhan (China) as well as in Barcelona (Spain). MDPI publishes 150 diverse peer-reviewed, scientific, open access, electronic journals, including Molecules (launched in 1996; Impact Factor 2.416), the International Journal of Molecular Sciences (launched in 2000; Impact Factor 2.862), Sensors (launched in 2001; Impact Factor 2.245), Marine Drugs (launched in 2003; Impact Factor 2.853), Energies (launched in 2008; Impact Factor 2.072), the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health (launched in 2004; Impact Factor 2.063), Viruses (launched in 2009; Impact Factor 3.353), Remote Sensing (launched in 2009; Impact Factor 3.180), Toxins (launched in 2009; Impact Factor 2.938) and Nutrients (launched in 2009; Impact Factor 3.270). Our publishing activities are supported by more than 9,900 active scientists and academic editors on our journals’ international editorial boards, including several Nobelists. More than 187,500 individual authors have already published with MDPI. MDPI.com receives more than 4.2 million monthly webpage views.

            http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/12/8/9375

            Abstract

            The widespread, intentional and increasingly frequent chemical emplacement in the troposphere has gone unidentified and unremarked in the scientific literature for years. The author presents evidence that toxic coal combustion fly ash is the most likely aerosolized particulate sprayed by tanker-jets for geoengineering, weather-modification and climate-modification purposes and describes some of the multifold consequences on public health. Two methods are employed: (1) Comparison of 8 elements analyzed in rainwater, leached from aerosolized particulates, with corresponding elements leached into water from coal fly ash in published laboratory experiments, and (2) Comparison of 14 elements analyzed in dust collected outdoors on a high-efficiency particulate air (HEPA) filter with corresponding elements analyzed in un-leached coal fly ash material. The results show: (1) the assemblage of elements in rainwater and in the corresponding experimental leachate are essentially identical. At a 99% confidence interval, they have identical means (T-test) and identical variances (F-test); and (2) the assemblage of elements in the HEPA dust and in the corresponding average un-leached coal fly ash are likewise essentially identical. The consequences on public health are profound, including exposure to a variety of toxic heavy metals, radioactive elements, and neurologically-implicated chemically mobile aluminum released by body moisture in situ after inhalation or through transdermal induction.
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            an idiotic paranoid conspiracy , that takes some serious stupid….

            i purposefully linked to geowatch again so you would take the bait of trying to discredit all the links i provided by trying to claim it isn’t a credible source (which it is anyways)

            so yeah in by doing so you’ve also claimed that this highly reputable scientific journal publication site , isn’t , it’s not possible to even pretend to come back with credibility after making a statement like that , you’re over it’s done , you’ll never convince anyone of your pay master’s lies , you should just stop…..

            but you wont cause shills always have the last comment , it’s what is visible at the end of a conversation so that’s where you’ll get the most views for what you’re getting paid to lie about…..

            also it would help to make it a slight challenge to identify shills if you weren’t all so equally stupid and predictable in conversation cues……but why do i bother telling you that , you don’t think , so it’s not like you could do anything with that information anyways , and then the game gets boring for me….

          • There is no place like home, there is no place like home, there is no place like home,,,,oh me oh my,,
            do not pay any attention to that man behind the curtain. …
            Hillary loves you

          • Tough luck for $Hillary then, because the feeling isn’t mutual. $Hillary is just a paid shill for BigCorp, just as the conspiracy nutters here are paid shills for Alex Jones.

          • ……SSHHHYYYTTTTT I NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT I WOULD SEE THE DAY WHERE A SHILL MADE A GOOD POINT LOL , but don’t despair , we’re taking the fear mongering industry of the alex johns types to task as well whenever they try to make some fallacious claims like with the yellowstone volcano scare making another rounds recently….

          • Alex Jones. Hes controlled opposition. You couldnt even get his name right, pfft.

          • i know lots of people claim that , but it doesn’t always have to be the false dichotomy of truther or disinfo agent , that’s just another exploitable divide and conquer opportunity to think like that , where as from what i’ve seen it’s more likely to be the case that with cases like alex jones , they can be interested in some truths about things , but also be interested in their own ideals or culture of finances , so exposing truths about things sometimes isn’t their sole motivation….

            and no off the cuff random generic hand gestures with no context is 1 not proof of anything and 2 such an easy attention grabbing tool for semi self aware people to use…..

          • great stuff…thank you for trying. this is religion to these gnostics who are so proud of their so caled inside info. they have invested their entire lives into it. you cant win with logic.. but maybe when they see that google ads are just not payinng the bills they will find meaning elsewhere and do something productive.

          • Well dont you know so much about conspiracy theorist! Sounds to me like you have been around the traps eh?

          • Propaganda paid for by the Feds. Have you really not realized that vapor and dust do not contain poisons and toxins without somebody putting it there. Blind boot licking troll.

          • Indeed, vapor can only contain poisons and toxins if someone puts it in there. That’s why no intelligent person on the planet takes your kind seriously: the Tin Foil Hat crowd CLAIMS the government (or the Jews, or the Zionists, or the Illuminati, or the Reptilians, or whoever, depending on your preferred version of the conspiracy lunacy) put it there, but they consistently fail to PROVE it.

          • How many times do I have to point out to you that links to other conspiracy nutter websites don’t exactly qualify as ‘proof’ of anything? So far, you and your other aliases haven’t provided a single shred of proof for these alleged ‘chemtrails.’ All you do is point to other conspiracy websites, and link to documents that, upon closer examination, don’t prove anything. And thanks to that approach, conspiracy nutters have lost and all credibility they ever might have had.

          • >links scientific research document proving the issue
            >claims the document doesn’t , for no reason

            holy shit you actually are functionally retarded aren’t you? linking pdf =/= linking website , nor is something being hosted on a particular website grounds to dismiss it , every reply you make just sounds like the desperate gasps of a fish out of water…..or in this case a shill without an argument that can distract me from dispelling your attempts at disinfo…..

          • If the website in question is a science-denying conspiracy nutter website (like this one), then there’s every reason to dismiss any post or document on that website as unreliable information.

            BTW, I’ve done a little bit of research into that Herndon guy. Your kind has the habit of posting false information, and guess what: Herndon is known conspiracy nutter, and that paper has been debunked and retracted because of the numerous flaws in it. So much for your ‘proof.’

            Get educated at:
            https://debunkingdenialism.com/2015/09/05/flawed-chemtrails-paper-by-herndon-retracted/
            http://www.webcitation.org/6bJmeEVNp
            http://www.webcitation.org/6bJmrHIsi
            http://www.webcitation.org/6bJmeq2ui

          • very good! see you are capable of having a real discussion when you have some ammunition to use in your shilling position at least

            indeed that paper i linked was redacted , this got you to play that next move you did , of actually providing evidence to refute the other person’s claims

            now that you’ve shown you are capable of doing that and adhering to an academic/intellectual standard for your thought process or whatever , now let’s see that if you can’t find a refutation or redaction of these reports

            http://www.currentscience.ac.in/Volumes/108/12/2173.pdf
            http://www.arizonaskywatch.com/charts/our%20charts/index.html
            http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987704000222

            which are just a few of the many that can be easily found even through their own references , will you give up the shill vial and admit that there is an undeniable global toxic heavy metal contamination that can only result from the process of mining the raw materials , refining them into nano particulates , and dispersing them as aerosols in the atmosphere by jet tankers , which are major components of the ongoing global geoengineering experiments?…..

          • Article on Current Science: written by Marvin Herndon, who already managed to lose his credibility thanks to his conspiracy lunacy.
            Arizona Skywatch: conspiracy website, and thus no reliable source of information, as pointed out numerous times already
            Sciencedirect: only an abstract of a scientific paper, no access to the full paper so no ‘proof’ for you ‘chemtrails’ there either, and in your case a case of standard copy-and-paste work as this stuff is way over your head. To make it even worse (for you and your kind), the late Mark Purdey’s views are embraced by the conspiracy nutters but not accepted by the scientific community because of his shoddy way of conducting research.

            And now, if you will excuse me, I’ll just go sit back and see how long it will take you to reach the end of the standard conspiracy nutters phase of ‘Flood Opponents With Links To Articles That Really Don’t Prove Our Conspiracy Theories In The Hope That Our Opponents Will Give Up Because They Unlike Us Actually Have A Life And Have More Interesting Things To Do Than Just Keep Debunking Our Pseudo-Evidence.’

          • 1 pathetic attempt at character assassination cause you can’t refute the evidence
            2 another pathetic attempt at character assassination cause you can’t refute the evidence , only this time the character assassination isn’t even relevant to the evidence presented , so it’s even more pathetic and funny

            “All our samples were tested in Arizona Department of Environmental
            Quality approved laboratories, using the long-established ICP scan
            method of analyzing metals (EPA Method 200.7), that is the Determination of Metals and Trace Elements in Water and Wastes by Inductively Coupled
            Plasma-Atomic Spectrometry,”

            it’s not mine or their fault if nobody else wants to admit to the toxic contamination proved by their lab tests , but until you can refute it the evidence still stands….

            3 http://www.wnho.net/BariumPoisoningStudy.pdf you fÜcking little bitch do i seriously need to search every report who’s name i give when you can’t immediately click on the full pdf from the links i provide? you incompetent child shill FÜCK IM BOTH PISSED AND LAUGHING AT THE SAME TIME XD

            im gonna have to start treating you accordingly like the retard you are which you got from those vaccines that i proved to you cause autism that i never heard you respond thanking me for enlightening you on that matter eh?…..

          • So, that works for you and your opinion but it just does not work for logical, methodical thinkers. I notice you deny the scientific evidence by your own admission when you point out “those” websites aren’t real. Obviously you are not smart enough to think outside the box. I’m done with you because my time is more valuable.

          • Outside the box is fine, it’s the outside reality thing that we take issue with.

          • Ah yes, insults. The standard practice of conspiracy nutters when they realise they’ve been cornered. And your kind still don’t understand why no sane, intelligent person likes you?

          • You have done nothing but insult, Amazing how you can see others but carnt see yourself lol.

          • I have proven various conspiracy nutters here wrong over and over again. Don’t whine about insults; your kind use insults as a standard tactic to try and shut up intelligent, educated people who don’t buy your bullshit theories, so don’t be surprised when people start returning the favour.

          • You have not produced a shred of anything other than running off at the mouth. The topic as you like to deviate from it is contrails v chemtrails.https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4bf60fbdfa1517c39133d55750c4a4df15b61022e4b84be888ef53ca97167f8e.jpg

            As you can read it is impossible for modern plane to produce them. Even when they could it was at altitudes over 60,000feet and even then the weather conditions had to be ideal, Which is almost never. So you red headed cock sucker (if thats you or your real name) your done. Your little band of dick wads can eat me also. Your debunked.

          • LOL. Another case of a conspiracy nutter who actually believes that he can prove he’s right by pointing to content on other science-denying conspiracy websites. As for deviating from the original subject: that was to be expected, it’s standard conspiracy nutter practice to deviate from the initial topic when they find out they’ve once again been cornered.

          • Aren’t you the crabby little she-queen! “Nutters?” Can’t you disagree without coming across as a frustrated spinster?

            You want scientific proof Joroen DinkleWhacker? Do you have the capacity to read documents and analyses published by real adults from the scientific and military communities? Do you know how to “read between the lines?” Are you familiar with DEWs, RF and scalar wave weapons or do you only accept what you hear from the mainstream media?

            While the “purpose” of the chemtrails is most likely not to poison the population, there are at least 6 to 10 different technologies at work – which can be integrated with the dispersal of particles at altitude – nano or otherwise.

            Now Miss Crabby, before you untwist your panties and even attempt to respond, I suggest you look at the USAF’s 1996 paper entitled “Owning the Weather by 2025: Weather as a Force Multiplier.” FYI – while only weather is directly discussed in that paper, if you understand resultant RF/Wave combinations which result in scalar fields, then you may want to google “Malech 1976 Patent” and then use that little noggin of yours to imagine what the powers that be could be up to when Malech’s tech (in use since the 1950s) is combined with AIMs – Artificial Ionospheric Mirrors.

            And BTW – while you are at it – look up Project Popeye. While the rather provincial belief that they are “poisoning the population” is a bit off, what they are up to is far more nefarious than what the average person can grasp since they aren’t familiar with the plethora of technologies which have been integrated for geoengineering, psyops, scalar field generation, etc.

            Lets see if you just comment on here in an attempt to buttress your emasculated ego by acting so condescending to people, or if you have the capability to actually read, think, process and make decisions on your own. I am just waiting for you to respond that the USAF PDF is quackery.

            You are just as naive and incorrect as the plaintiffs who think that it is poison which is being released, but at least they have the sense to recognize that the purpose(s) for such activities are indeed detrimental to everyone’s health.

          • And here we have another fine example of a hiding-behind-anonimity conspiracy nutter who resorts to insults. Come back when you’re an adult and can write your own responses, rather than copying and pasting the text provided by your employer Alex Jones.

          • Nope punk. I don’t know anything about Alex Jones. I gave you the title of a PDF put out by the USAF in 1996 which explains how the atmosphere can be manipulated and weather used as a force modifier. No cut and paste at all.

            You asked for scientific proof – I gave it to you. With statements by more than half a dozen PhD’s and scientists – the same people who developed the technology.

            Insults? I came on this thread looking to see what other people felt and saw an ignorant little lady-man abusing people – and let’s face it, you refuse to even look at the USAF PDF because you shoot off yr mouth without any educational background.

            Now go write another science fiction book you foolish little child. You obviously had few friends as a youth and now we now why yr wife was so effin sick of you. She made a good choice dumping you loser.

          • A document about how something CAN be done is not proof that it GETS done. I can write a document about how I can track you down and slit your throat, but that doesn’t mean it’s actually going to happen.

            So far, every single bit of ‘proof’ you and other conspiracy nutters have provided has turned out to not prove anything. So no, you once again haven’t provided any scientific proof for anything, other than for the fact that you’re a paranoid, delusional idiot who can’t think for himself, has no education and only a very low IQ, hides behind anonimity like the coward that he is, resorts to insults and personal attacks when people don’t buy his paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories, and can’t even spell properly.

          • Referring to you as “Lady-man” was not meant to be insulting. I truly am sorry. In this age of political correctness, I was simply applying the most suitable gender-identification label to the little Euro-monkey I was attempting to engage in a rationale conversation, thus the moniker “Lady-man.”

            “Insults,” Lady-man? You use the same abusive vocabulary with everyone one here, ranging from “Conspiracy-nutter” to “Extremist Lady-man” offender. Did thy mother mate with a monkey Lady-man? Was she a Primate-Nutter-Butter-lover? Is you uber-toothy and laughable appearance the reason you harbor so much anger for the world, the reason your wife left you?

            You stated I have a low IQ. You are correct. It is very low, I struggle with English, have no upper-level education, and am confounded by the possibility at even attempting to read anything above the level of the childish gibberish you write and refer to as literature.

            You are an “author?” LOL. Comedian maybe, but “author” you’re not. I bet your wife’s family breathed a sigh of relief when she dumped your arse and moved on to greener pastures. You are proof that God does indeed either have a sense of humor or makes an occasional mistake during the forging of “hominid” output such as yourself.

            In any case, Euro-monkey – attempting to enter a rational discourse with you is a fruitless endeavor, even though a primate such as yourself probably adores bananas – as your mum certainly did.

          • hey now , i had few friends as a youth and still in my young adulthood , that’s not a nice thing to make fun of people for…

            make fun of him not having any friends now due to his obvious employment as a shill….

          • he doesn’t have the mental capacity , i linked him a document signed by a head md at GSK that was reporting on children getting autism from vacancies they were given , he responded saying to point to the page that said this cause he didn’t think i could , then i ctrl+f’ed the pages and told him it’s called using ctrl+f , then he claimed that the document only says the word autism and doesn’t prove that the vaccines caused it , when that’s literally what the introduction to the over 1k page report says it is

            he is so much of a bleeding die hard shill that he can’t even read an introduction to a document explaining what it is or how to use ctrl+f to find the information

            you can see it all in the comments on this thread , this just happened yesterday , and im starting to seriously worry now just how brain damaged this guy is…..

          • because everyone knows shills don’t exist…..oh wait that’s right everyone who’s self aware does in fact know shills exist , and we know that the only people who are outspoken about shills not existing are the shills themselves , hmmmmmm makes me wonder…….

          • Carnt make your point so go to the insults, Chemtrails are reported world wide not in one small area, Countries the world over are in class actions over geo engineering. So the people of the world are all conspiracy nutters to? You are fast becoming a minority.

          • Chemtrails can’t be reported, as they don’t exist. Or more precisely, they don’t exist in the real world, only in the paranoid, delusional minds of conspiracy nutters, who don’t either don’t understand what contrails are, or perhaps do understand but get paid by Alex Jones to parrot his insane conspiracy theories. As much as you’ll hate it, the vast majority of the world’s population doesn’t believe your bullshit theories. You don’t become a majority just by claiming you are one. You conspiracy nutters never have been a majority, you never will be; you’re just a tiny fringe group, and that’s what you’ll remain.

          • Of course David Keith would disagree with me. David Keith disagrees with everyone who doesn’t share his pseudo-scientific bullshit and Tin Foil Hat beliefs.

          • If it is evidence you want, all you need to do is visit one of the many web sites and there is more than enough forensic evidence for reasonable doubt. Anyone who has any intelligence knows why the spraying is happening. Solar Radiation Management, Weather Modification, Cooling to slow down the melt of the ice cap or are you not familiar with those facts either. I agree that wiping out of the general populations would leave the elite doing their own dirty work and they would soon tire of it. The elite are not eating the same garbage as the masses and they believe they never will. You, Jeroen, are the nut case since you probably are posting to see what reaction you will get.

          • Jeroen isn’t a nutcase; I’m sure he’s very well paid for supporting this genocidal depopulation program. He’s an antisocial psychopath; a Zionazi satanist; an adversary of life on the planet.
            How do these pathological liars explain the fact that there are no chemtrails observed (by satellite or ground-based observers) over China and Russia. Intelligent water vapor molecules that detect national borders?

          • You nailed some of it – check out Owningthe Weather by 2025 – USAF and then Google Malech 1976 Patent. Artificial Ionospheric Mirrors can be used to strengthen and spread scalar fields from intersecting radars – if you read malech’s 1976 Patent brief it is obvious what else this can be used for

          • Suck it! You fcukn robot! Is that a randomly generate name or what? Anyone with a mug like that wouldn’t even share it so you can’t be human.

          • No, that’s not a randomly generated name. Unlike you and your kind, I post under my own name. Unlike the coward that you and most of your kind are, I don’t hide between an alias and a default avatar. What are you hiding? Afraid that people will recognise you as that guy who lives down the street in that house with the ‘A Registered Sex Offender Lives Here’ sign in the front yard?

          • Theres a good sheep, Just stay asleep. Every things fine no need to worry. The conditions for vapor trails are rare, So explain the trails clearly visible every day?

          • http://science-edu.larc.nasa.gov/contrail-edu/science.php

            Warning: article written by scientific organisation. For conspiracy nutters, exposure to science may result in vomiting, hysterical reactions, as well as vitriolic responses that in comparison make Tourette syndrome look like perfectly normal behaviour. Conspiracy nutters who show any of these symptoms are advised to seek immediate psychiatric help.

          • The only thing besides tests that they spray and that is done very rarely is for cloud seeding causing the condesation aka clouds to condense into water and rain in drought ridden areas. There are no chemtrails. Especially not from ever major commercial airliner! Liberalism, it’s a form of brain disease and mental retardation.

          • ‘Liberalism’ has nothing to do with it. In fact, my own extensive research has shown that there’s an almost 100% overlap between conspiracy nutters and right wing extremists. And on sites like this, it’s really just a waste of time and energy to point out all the flaws in conspiracy theories, because most people here are just mindless sheep on Alex Jones’ payroll; the only thing they contribute to the world is their entertainment value.

          • So, the evil bastards doing this, are willing to take themselves and their families out, in order to get the rest of us?

          • Let me say it this way. If you know what your looking for or what is happening you have an advantage do you not? There are treatments such as blood filtering, and those with the know have regular access to nutrient dense natural food and of course there is avoidance when necessary.

          • I don’t know how you can create persistent contrails in the the upper atmosphere when the factors involved must be ideal for that to happen and what are the odds? Perfect temperature, perfect relative humidity, perfect wind,air currents and pressure. Those planes fly all over the grid their trails provide but all without missing out on the perfect set of circumstances and without causing those passengers from barfing throughout the rigorous ups and downs and criss cross manoeuvres .

          • There’s not one perfect set of conditions required for formation of contrails. If you’d bother to look up, you’d notice that some contrails disappear almost instantly, others last for days and spread out, and everything in between. You really should have paid intention in science class.

          • I know it’s probably entertainment for you, but you do know that you are arguing science and facts with religious zealots whose opinions are based on what they BELIEVE, not science.

            Such belief is proof to all logic and reason.

            If it wasn’t such a devastating reflection of the pathetic state of our educational system, it would be hilarious.

            Good luck!

          • I’m very well aware of the fact that these idiots ignore (and even hate) science and logic, and I’m aware of the fact that nothing in the world can change their minds. I must say that I do derive an almost satanic pleasure from cornering them by using science and logic, and then watch them as they desperately and in vain try to wurm themselves out of that corner. 🙂

          • You aren’t using science and logic. You are simply belittling people. If you are referring to high school science, you definitely are an impressive little lass. If you are referring to now-declassified publications, or buried pdf’s from government agencies – you certainly aren’t at the top of any IQ scale for mammals who can walk in an upright position.

            You come across as a self-impressed mommy’s boy.

          • Quite a statement, coming from someone who hides behind anonimity and habitually uses insults to try and shut up people who don’t buy his delusions. So, tell me, what are you hiding? Criminal record as sex offender? Tax evasion? You are aware that you have to pay income tax over that money Alex Jones pays you every month to be his shill, right?

          • Read my response(s) to Joreon above with directions to USAF publications and patents. This is science, but the problem is that most of it is classified and unless you know where to search for it in the public realm, it isn’t so easy to find.

          • Yes, I know, in your world it’s called bullshit. Us intelligent, educated people call it science.

          • Always the “nutter” approach. Please dude…Your scam is old…kinda like your fears…the air currents would have to be coming from like 15 directions in many cases. Highly unlikely. What do you fear anyway? That your crook government poisons people? They poisoned us in Nam? For a quick fix and a government contract scum will rationalize anything. The same government denied Agent Orange dioxins were responsible for cancer after cancer replicating itself in soldier after soldier in far too many above average numbers. Yes, not too mention the people we were trying to set free from the evil empire. No dude boy, your crowd is too crummy to let off the hook, based on proven criminality. Chemtrails are not natural.

          • Question Mr Jeroen Troll Miester, how do you account for the “con trails” and the “grids” they make over areas that are NOT in any commercial air traffic patterns?

          • Vectoring towards and away from airport(s) versus symmetrical intersecting grid patterns (checkerboards) over large expanses of visible sky.

          • BTW, why would a judge in Colorado, court order the removal of her daughter, simply because she mentioned ‘chemtrails’ at her daughter’s school…..
            No other allegations have ever been made against this mother and she has a spotless record.

            So many things have been done without consult or explanation to the very people. left in most cases, ‘to pay for the messes, left’. We all have had enough and ask that the degree of unaccountable spending on ‘projects’ classified –stop!…And exposure of all be done…regularly–or maybe we start suing for those that do or authorize be held financially and totally accountable…

          • I’m not familiar with any case of a Colorado judge (or any other judge anywhere in the world, for that matter) ordering a child removed from his/her parents after one of said parents mentioning some paranoid, delusional conspiracy theory. Without the court documents, I can’t comment on it.

          • I agree, seemed too beyond the norm.
            Prior to 2008, I would never have thought the 1%, could dare expose themselves, or the degree of their extreme psycho-greed…..I mean, even the IMF has begged hedge fund owners to deleverage their estimated 823 trillion in o/s derivative contracts, globally, to no avail. But given, that these owners were carelessly offered ‘preferred creditor’ status if any bank defaulted, is it any wonder they feel enabled and empowered to do as they please….with no legal repercussions?

          • Apparently you forgot about the jet engine exhaust that’s blowing out at what 1200 degrees?

          • Perhaps you forgot over 70% of the air passing through goes un-combusted.

          • Perhaps you forgot over 70% of the air passing through goes un-combusted.

        • So an argument is that they’re dumping toxic waste into the airways? Really? What mathematical sense does that make?

          Not that we’re dealing with this type of plane, but as an example:

          A 747-400 Freighter can hold 124 tons of cargo. The cost to fully fuel up a 474 is about $145,000. That’s about $1,000 per ton of cargo.

          A large sized dump truck can hold 10 tons of cargo. The cost to fill a 75 gallon tank is about $225. The cost per ton for the truck is $22.50. For the same amount a 747 can hold, that comes to $281.25.

          So you’re logic is that “they” would rather spend 40 times the cost of getting rid of toxic waste in the less-than-discreet method of a plane, than simply packing it in a dump truck and finding an abandoned mine?

        • Oh…I do…and they do not come from jet turbine areas of the wings. If they did, the De-icers would not be working.

          • You only get flack when you’re over the target; there’s no better confirmation (other than the lab analyses and photos of sprayer nozzles, etc) of the deception sold by trolls here.

        • You obviously dont have a clue, The conditions for vapor trails are a rare occurrence. Do some research!

    • Whether they are chemtrails or contrails may not really matter. That is the tactic to keep the infighting alive. The real fact is our sky is being robbed from us almost daily here in southern Oregon. It starts out some what blue and then hundreds of these chem/contrails turn the entire sky gray or a sick looking grey blue. I forget what it’s like to see real dark blue skies like it was years ago. How is it that commercial or even military aircraft are allowed to take that away from us. It’s a depressing color. So chemtrail or contrail doesn’t matter. The reality is what we see on almost a daily basis. This crap is over us all day and it is ugly. What I can’t understand is why you can’t at least see this point of view.

    • Why ais it the so called contrails aka chemtrails (High altitude aerosal dispersol program) that spread out and cause a haze for days are coming from planes not following flight paths? Where are these planes going? And why do the planes following the flight path have contrails that disapate not far behind the plane?

    • Sounds like you did, contrails cannot last for 20 hours and spread out over miles of area sideways, they dissipate much more rapidly than chemtrails do, if you knew how contrails worked, you’d understand that the disturbance created is temperature and liquid/vapor based, when a contrail dissipates it’s temperature goes back to the norm as surrounding air brings it’s temperature back to that of the surrounding air fairly quickly, at which point it is no longer visible, as it is no different than the air around it at that point.

      You need to look at a chemtrail and watch it throughout the day, it will last the entire day, it will widen by a massive amount as it spreads while slowly descending, please mister science, explain to me how some condensation expands massively and overpowers the temperature of surrounding air? Seeing as that is the only possible way they could last that long if they were condensation, tell me how condensation isn’t affected by the air around it, and tell me how it expands massively?

    • It is not about high school chemistry. It is about opening your eyes and seeing that at some days flight patterns aren’t even near what they are almost all other days in the year. Not only are the routes very different, on these days I can sometimes see 3 or 4 planes in the sky at the same time. Never happens on the days that flight patterns are normal. Then, these days start out nice and sunny, then the many chemtrails form a pattern and then slowly come down, making ever wider stripes in the air, and by the afternoon it is all cloudy.

      Chemtrails are not contrails!

      All you need to do to see it is to stop THINKING about it and just. LOOK. For many people that are so stuck in their minds and beliefs this is difficult. And, let me admit, I have doubted it for many months. Could not belief that this (although not that often) is happening also in Holland. It makes no sense, seems insane. But once you OPEN YOUR EYES you cannot deny it anymore. Who knows why, but chemtrails, sadly enough, are a reality.
      The best explanations I know are:
      1. Trying to reduce the effects of climate change (it does get cloudy and gets colder for a while after the spraying)
      2. Geoengineering practice for warfare: if you can change the weather, you have power over your enemy.

      Whatever the reason. It happens without the public being informed. And probably with tax payers money on top of it…

      Think about it. Some governments dump toxic waste in drinking water (fluoride), why is it so hard to believe that they dump other toxic waste (coal fly ash) from planes. Both are damaging to health. Both happen.

    • I know Jeroen from elsewhere. His family is invested in the medical industry and he is a total shill lol. He often disrupts positive social endeavors.

      His arguments are a total shame, because he is totally lame. He says it is unwise to spray chemtrails because they don’t insta-kill, but his arguments are full of total lies. McDonald’s is genocide and poisons everybody but it doesn’t insta-kill either, so his arguments are INVALID.

      Also, he looks like a shill, a paid Faux News reporter or something.

      Scientifically speaking, they sprayed chemtrails over my home one day, no doubt they were retailiating for me posting some facts about flouride that day. Except the chemtrails were a steady stream for one mile, then there was a 500 ft gap, then it began to stream again. This implies that there was an on-off switch and deliberate release of chemtrails! Temperatures don’t suddenly gap in the sky forming magic ice exhaust trails that suddenly gap in patches!

      • You know me from elsewhere? That’s odd, because I’ve never heard of you before—and as far as I know, nobody in what’s left of the family tree has ties to the medical industry, save for that one highly intelligent niece who went to medical school and now serves her community as a General Practitioner. So, tell me, who else in the family tree has ties to the medical industry?

        But we should really believe that the government (or the Illuminati, or the Zionists, or whoever, depending on which version of the chemtrails conspiracy theory you subscribe to) sent a plane 30,000 ft up in the air just to spray your house because you posted some science-denying, paranoid and delusional conspiracy fairy tale?

        Anyway, thanks for calling me a shill. In your paranoid, delusional, out-of-touch-with-reality world, a shill is anyone who prefers science, logic, and hard evidence over idiotic, science-denying conspiracy theories that aren’t backed by any evidence whatsoever, so I’ll consider the title of ‘shill’ a badge of honour. 🙂

        • A shill is any internet fag who trusts the gov. Seriously stop talking, you’re lame and boring with bloated paragraphs. The planes weren’t 30,000 ft high, you moron, some planes are only 1000 ft high where I live. Ur a fag and a bloated fatass writer lol. You aint got no argument you just call me delusional over and over like an angry queer. FYI I like science and logic more than you do faggot.

          • And here we go again: the standard tactic of paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutters of hurling insults at their opponents, once they’ve found they got cornered by science and logic, and then desperately try to get out of that corner. Your poor grammar and spelling proves once again the massive overlap between conspiracy nutters and people with low intelligence. Heck, I dare even say that ‘conspiracy nutters’ is actually a subset of the ‘people with low IQ’ population group.

            So, tell me, why are you hiding between an alias and a standard avatar? What are you so afraid of that you don’t dare reveal your real name and your face? Afraid that people will recognise you as that guy who lives down the street in that house with the ‘A Registered Sex Offender Lives Here’ sign in the front yard, perhaps? Don’t want the tax collector to find out about your monthly paycheck from Alex Jones?

            BTW, you still haven’t told me where you allegedly know me from, and who in my family allegedly has ties to the medical industry. I reckon it’s just more proof that you’re just making things up—but that’s to be expected from someone who believes in out-of-touch-with-reality conspiracy theories.

          • And here we go again: the standard tactic of shills: to ignore the evidence presented and pretend they’re still right in a desperate shilling attempt to convince others of what they’re being paid to convince them of

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFCS_OdDsJw
            i even linked you a video of a plane flying at low altitude like that guy says maybe only 1000ft dumping it’s toxic payload over a densely populated city….

            inb4 no response to this evidence and more shilling comments away….

          • That’s indeed one of the standard tactics of conspiracy nutters (both the paid and unpaid shills for Alex Jones): ignore the evidence presented that proves them wrong, and pretend they’re still right in a desperate shilling attempt to convince others of what they’re being paid to convince them of.

          • oh neat you ignored the evidence in my post that proves you wrong , according to you that makes you a conspiracy nutter , and i have little interest in communicating with stupid people , or shills such as yourself , though i will continue to denounce any bs (bad science) you post here….

          • As always, your post didn’t contain evidence for anything other than the fact that you’re a science–denying, paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter and a paid shill for Alex Jones.

          • >provides irrefutable video evidence
            >claims provided no evidence
            hhahahahahah man you’re a funny guy for a shill 😀 …..

          • As always, your ‘evidence’ doesn’t prove anything, other than the fact that you’re a science-denying, paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter, desperately grasping at straws as every single bit of ‘proof’ you provide gets shot down.
            What you see in that video are simply aerodynamic contrails. Get educated at http://contrailscience.com/hybrid-contrails-a-new-classification/

          • http://contrailscience.com/about/
            “I’m not a scientist, or a meteorologist”

            and neither are you mr shity shill , my evidence still stands unrefuted , now get your crazy pseudo scientific contrail conspiracy junk out of my face you lunatic…..

          • My IQ is higher than yours. The subset of anal retentives and people who care about spelling is high. So you are a prat.

    • Beejaym you really need to dig deeper and read up on Geo-engineering, climate engineering, weather modification and high altitude aerosol spraying. Its even listed in the Smithsonian. Over 100 jet fuel patents with these special ingredients included that leave a white spray turning into wide long clouds and I’ve seen a few jets that only create contrails at the same time.

  4. Fortunately some of us didn’t sleep through high school chemistry and understand little things like water vapor, dew points and dust particles.

    • Hm. Sounds to me like you did sleep and still are. Explain to me and show me how vapor persists. Please do oh wise one. Get your likely fat ass off your seat and actually try to duplicate the evidence that has been presented for years. Step into a deep freeze, set that mutha to -45 and get in there and show us how vapor persists even for a couple minutes. If and when you do maybe you’ll have some credibility. Till then you have none.

    • Well enough to know the difference and recognize the irregularities. Why ask the question? Take a bottle of what ever particles you like with you and show us. Replicate what is obvious to you to be a very regular set of circumstances that are filmed around the world daily and create for us a persistent vapor trail. It’s gotta last at least couple of minutes if you want any credibility.. Go ahead, if you succeed you will have unravelled the mystery of the persistent contrail. You’ll be famous. So?? I’ll be waiting.

    • Ah yes, the typical conspiracy nutter approach: rather than making claims and providing the evidence proving them right, they make claims and then demand that people prove them wrong. Unfortunately for you, that’s not how it works. If you want to accuse the government of some massive conspiracy, it’s up to you to prove it.

      BTW, you can’t duplicate persistent vapor trails in a freezer. Temperature is just one of the factors involved, other factors include weather patterns, air currents, and air pressure. I don’t know of any regular deep freeze that can replicate all involved atmospheric conditions.

    • Ah yes, the typical ignorant contributor to homicidal genocide. Do you really hate your loved ones that much? An apologist that would run with the flock straight over the edge of the abyss. Don’t worry, we know your not alone but you are a minority these days. Evidence is there guess you just don’t know how to read.
      Oh yea, you can duplicate this so called natural effect if it’s natural as you say. It’s called using a micro climate. So go ahead and show us. Take a fan in with you as well if you must. I am still waiting.

    • Since you seem to believe you have all the answers, answer this question: why would the government (or whoever) want to spray chemicals from 30,000 feet to commit genocide?

      First, spraying chemicals from high altitude for that purpose would be extremely inefficient and expensive; if you want to commit genocide, there are far more efficient ways to do it.

      Second, genocide would be counter productive, because if the ruling elite would wipe out the population, they wouldn’t have people left to rule over and work for them.

      Third, the ruling elite would kill themselves in the process, as they eat the same food, drink the same water, and breathe the same air as the plebs.

      As for your claim that “the evidence is there”: where is it, then? You conspiracy nutters keep claiming there’s evidence, but you consistently fail to show it. The only “evidence” your kind kinda sorta produces are links to other conspiracy websites and YouTube videos by other conspiracy nutters.

    • Do you believe it to be a simple linear equation? Only one purpose? No. Read the decades of related patented materials. Don’t bother with the “it’s just a patent”. Patents are filed with intended purpose.
      What do you consider to be “High Altitude”? Troposphere or Stratosphere. Both are accessible with current tech. David Keith would disagree with you and believes it would be very efficient and inexpensive considering.
      You think they would all drop over night? What are you? A conspiracy nutter?
      You believe there have been no significant accomplishments in medical industry and that care is equal for all? No way to filter blood? No way to access high grade organic food or specialists?
      And finally, do you need me to wipe your ass too? Globally we have had Scientists, Pilots, Air Force staff, Politicians, Congressional and Presidential papers, NASA and the list goes on have all come out over the decades. Decades worth of pictures, video, independent lab tests and the list goes on. People around the world taking notice as countries that were not affected by geoengineering are now. Australia and New Zealand being 2 I have noted in the past couple of years. Go visit Geoengineeringwatch.org.
      Have yourself a blissfully ignorant day you nutter you. 🙂

    • dude’s an obvious shill bro (or troll) , just dismiss their dismissal point to evidence and make sure it’s known they’re a shill , im pretty sure that would be easier for other people reading this to realize the description going on here , as opposed to actually taking what a shill says seriously and trying to rebut it……

    • Go visit Geoengineeringwatch. Riiiiight. As always with conspiracy nutters, they think links to other conspiracy nutter websites qualify as ‘evidence.’ You seem oblivious to the stupidity of that, so let me create a scenario following your method, in such a way that even you can understand.

      I post on a website that you are a rapist, a child molester, and a child murderer. Someone else posts the same story on an other website. When you then ask for proof for those accusations, I simply point to the other person’s website. Because, hey, it’s posted there as well, so it must be true!

    • You are an obvious troll. Not a very good one so I hope they doc your pay on this fail but very obviously by your comments did not even look at the site filled with material on this subject. I’m ok with that and I’m ok with the blind and willing as well. Enjoy.

    • not only does he not even bother to look at any links provided to him , but he then hilariously continued to claim they were all conspiracy websites , when the links i provided were from scientific research organizations , i even pasted the mission statement from one of them in my reply for everyone here to see , that the only conspiracy nut-job here is himself

      he’s an internet forum shill though , the lowest grade of shill , he’s already getting paid so little that if his paymasters doced it , he would be doing this shilling work for free :l ….

      however , a silver lining i see in all of this , is that we’re winning , information revelation is starting to win back over information suppression , and the lack of munitions for arguments for the shills such as the one we’re replying to here is proof of that , so keep up the good fight my brother…..

    • Of course David Keith would disagree with me. David Keith disagrees with everyone who doesn’t share his pseudo-scientific bullshit and Tin Foil Hat beliefs.

    • Actually, I did follow those links. And then I entered the various website names in Google, in combination with words like ‘quack,’ ‘hoax,’ and ‘conspiracy.’ Unfortunately for you, those websites aren’t the sites of real scientific ‘research organisations’ but conspiracy nutter websites. And fancy mission statements are just that: fancy mission statements. The crap people like Carnicom publish only proves that they’re paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutters.

    • woah ok clam down there ms crazy conspiracy theorist , not every site in the world is out to get you by fabricating things about the reality of the history of geoengineering we have on this planet that you’re paid to deny

      http://www.weathermodification.org/
      https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130314141014.htm
      http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/12/8/9375
      and for lots more links
      http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/documents-2/

      bitch i told you to take your pick i got more…..

    • Do you seriously believe that Tin Foil Hat sites like, say, geoengineeringwatch.com, become reliable sources if you just post links to it often enough? That’s not going to work; the sky is blue, and even if you post a million links to conspiracy websites that claim the sky is purple, it’s still blue.

      I do indeed deny your idiotic claims about ‘chemtrails’ because there’s no evidence whatsoever for that conspiracy. There’s a huge difference between chemicals ending up in the atmosphere as a side effect of something else (like air traffic), and the government (or whatever other organistation) deliberately spraying chemicals to mind-control us, wipe us out, or whatever othger version of the chemtrails hoax you believe in.

      And contrary to your paranoid beliefs, I’m not getting paid anything by anyone for trying to educate you. Would be nice though if I’d get paid for it, I could use the money. 🙂

    • congratulations on calling this
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      About MDPI

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      http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/12/8/9375

      Abstract

      The widespread, intentional and increasingly frequent chemical emplacement in the troposphere has gone unidentified and unremarked in the scientific literature for years. The author presents evidence that toxic coal combustion fly ash is the most likely aerosolized particulate sprayed by tanker-jets for geoengineering, weather-modification and climate-modification purposes and describes some of the multifold consequences on public health. Two methods are employed: (1) Comparison of 8 elements analyzed in rainwater, leached from aerosolized particulates, with corresponding elements leached into water from coal fly ash in published laboratory experiments, and (2) Comparison of 14 elements analyzed in dust collected outdoors on a high-efficiency particulate air (HEPA) filter with corresponding elements analyzed in un-leached coal fly ash material. The results show: (1) the assemblage of elements in rainwater and in the corresponding experimental leachate are essentially identical. At a 99% confidence interval, they have identical means (T-test) and identical variances (F-test); and (2) the assemblage of elements in the HEPA dust and in the corresponding average un-leached coal fly ash are likewise essentially identical. The consequences on public health are profound, including exposure to a variety of toxic heavy metals, radioactive elements, and neurologically-implicated chemically mobile aluminum released by body moisture in situ after inhalation or through transdermal induction.
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      an idiotic paranoid conspiracy , that takes some serious stupid….

      i purposefully linked to geowatch again so you would take the bait of trying to discredit all the links i provided by trying to claim it isn’t a credible source (which it is anyways)

      so yeah in by doing so you’ve also claimed that this highly reputable scientific journal publication site , isn’t , it’s not possible to even pretend to come back with credibility after making a statement like that , you’re over it’s done , you’ll never convince anyone of your pay master’s lies , you should just stop…..

      but you wont cause shills always have the last comment , it’s what is visible at the end of a conversation so that’s where you’ll get the most views for what you’re getting paid to lie about…..

      also it would help to make it a slight challenge to identify shills if you weren’t all so equally stupid and predictable in conversation cues……but why do i bother telling you that , you don’t think , so it’s not like you could do anything with that information anyways , and then the game gets boring for me….

    • Whether they are chemtrails or contrails may not really matter. That is the tactic to keep the infighting alive. The real fact is our sky is being robbed from us almost daily here in southern Oregon. It starts out some what blue and then hundreds of these chem/contrails turn the entire sky gray or a sick looking grey blue. I forget what it’s like to see real dark blue skies like it was years ago. How is it that commercial or even military aircraft are allowed to take that away from us. It’s a depressing color. So chemtrail or contrail doesn’t matter. The reality is what we see on almost a daily basis. This crap is over us all day and it is ugly. What I can’t understand is why you can’t at least see this point of view.

    • I don’t know how you can create persistent contrails in the the upper atmosphere when the factors involved must be ideal for that to happen and what are the odds? Perfect temperature, perfect relative humidity, perfect wind,air currents and pressure. Those planes fly all over the grid their trails provide but all without missing out on the perfect set of circumstances and without causing those passengers from barfing throughout the rigorous ups and downs and criss cross manoeuvres .

    • If it is evidence you want, all you need to do is visit one of the many web sites and there is more than enough forensic evidence for reasonable doubt. Anyone who has any intelligence knows why the spraying is happening. Solar Radiation Management, Weather Modification, Cooling to slow down the melt of the ice cap or are you not familiar with those facts either. I agree that wiping out of the general populations would leave the elite doing their own dirty work and they would soon tire of it. The elite are not eating the same garbage as the masses and they believe they never will. You, Jeroen, are the nut case since you probably are posting to see what reaction you will get.

    • So, that works for you and your opinion but it just does not work for logical, methodical thinkers. I notice you deny the scientific evidence by your own admission when you point out “those” websites aren’t real. Obviously you are not smart enough to think outside the box. I’m done with you because my time is more valuable.

    • Why ais it the so called contrails aka chemtrails (High altitude aerosal dispersol program) that spread out and cause a haze for days are coming from planes not following flight paths? Where are these planes going? And why do the planes following the flight path have contrails that disapate not far behind the plane?

    • Sounds like you did, contrails cannot last for 20 hours and spread out over miles of area sideways, they dissipate much more rapidly than chemtrails do, if you knew how contrails worked, you’d understand that the disturbance created is temperature and liquid/vapor based, when a contrail dissipates it’s temperature goes back to the norm as surrounding air brings it’s temperature back to that of the surrounding air fairly quickly, at which point it is no longer visible, as it is no different than the air around it at that point.

      You need to look at a chemtrail and watch it throughout the day, it will last the entire day, it will widen by a massive amount as it spreads while slowly descending, please mister science, explain to me how some condensation expands massively and overpowers the temperature of surrounding air? Seeing as that is the only possible way they could last that long if they were condensation, tell me how condensation isn’t affected by the air around it, and tell me how it expands massively?

    • Suck it! You fcukn robot! Is that a randomly generate name or what? Anyone with a mug like that wouldn’t even share it so you can’t be human.

    • It is not about high school chemistry. It is about opening your eyes and seeing that at some days flight patterns aren’t even near what they are almost all other days in the year. Not only are the routes very different, on these days I can sometimes see 3 or 4 planes in the sky at the same time. Never happens on the days that flight patterns are normal. Then, these days start out nice and sunny, then the many chemtrails form a pattern and then slowly come down, making ever wider stripes in the air, and by the afternoon it is all cloudy.

      Chemtrails are not contrails!

      All you need to do to see it is to stop THINKING about it and just. LOOK. For many people that are so stuck in their minds and beliefs this is difficult. And, let me admit, I have doubted it for many months. Could not belief that this (although not that often) is happening also in Holland. It makes no sense, seems insane. But once you OPEN YOUR EYES you cannot deny it anymore. Who knows why, but chemtrails, sadly enough, are a reality.
      The best explanations I know are:
      1. Trying to reduce the effects of climate change (it does get cloudy and gets colder for a while after the spraying)
      2. Geoengineering practice for warfare: if you can change the weather, you have power over your enemy.

      Whatever the reason. It happens without the public being informed. And probably with tax payers money on top of it…

      Think about it. Some governments dump toxic waste in drinking water (fluoride), why is it so hard to believe that they dump other toxic waste (coal fly ash) from planes. Both are damaging to health. Both happen.

    • So an argument is that they’re dumping toxic waste into the airways? Really? What mathematical sense does that make?

      Not that we’re dealing with this type of plane, but as an example:

      A 747-400 Freighter can hold 124 tons of cargo. The cost to fully fuel up a 474 is about $145,000. That’s about $1,000 per ton of cargo.

      A large sized dump truck can hold 10 tons of cargo. The cost to fill a 75 gallon tank is about $225. The cost per ton for the truck is $22.50. For the same amount a 747 can hold, that comes to $281.25.

      So you’re logic is that “they” would rather spend 40 times the cost of getting rid of toxic waste in the less-than-discreet method of a plane, than simply packing it in a dump truck and finding an abandoned mine?

    • There is no place like home, there is no place like home, there is no place like home,,,,oh me oh my,,
      do not pay any attention to that man behind the curtain. …
      Hillary loves you

    • Ah yes, insults. The standard practice of conspiracy nutters when they realise they’ve been cornered. And your kind still don’t understand why no sane, intelligent person likes you?

    • No, that’s not a randomly generated name. Unlike you and your kind, I post under my own name. Unlike the coward that you and most of your kind are, I don’t hide behind an alias and a default avatar. What are you hiding? Afraid that people will recognise you as that guy who lives down the street in that house with the ‘A Registered Sex Offender Lives Here’ sign in the front yard?

    • There’s not one perfect set of conditions required for formation of contrails. If you’d bother to look up, you’d notice that some contrails disappear almost instantly, others last for days and spread out, and everything in between. You really should have paid intention in science class.

    • Tough luck for $Hillary then, because the feeling isn’t mutual. $Hillary is just a paid shill for BigCorp, just as the conspiracy nutters here are paid shills for Alex Jones.

    • I know it’s probably entertainment for you, but you do know that you are arguing science and facts with religious zealots whose opinions are based on what they BELIEVE, not science.

      Such belief is proof to all logic and reason.

      If it wasn’t such a devastating reflection of the pathetic state of our educational system, it would be hilarious.

      Good luck!

    • ……SSHHHYYYTTTTT I NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT I WOULD SEE THE DAY WHERE A SHILL MADE A GOOD POINT LOL , but don’t despair , we’re taking the fear mongering industry of the alex johns types to task as well whenever they try to make some fallacious claims like with the yellowstone volcano scare making another rounds recently….

    • Oh…I do…and they do not come from jet turbine areas of the wings. If they did, the De-icers would not be working.

    • Always the “nutter” approach. Please dude…Your scam is old…kinda like your fears…the air currents would have to be coming from like 15 directions in many cases. Highly unlikely. What do you fear anyway? That your crook government poisons people? They poisoned us in Nam? For a quick fix and a government contract scum will rationalize anything. The same government denied Agent Orange dioxins were responsible for cancer after cancer replicating itself in soldier after soldier in far too many above average numbers. Yes, not too mention the people we were trying to set free from the evil empire. No dude boy, your crowd is too crummy to let off the hook, based on proven criminality. Chemtrails are not natural.

    • great stuff…thank you for trying. this is religion to these gnostics who are so proud of their so caled inside info. they have invested their entire lives into it. you cant win with logic.. but maybe when they see that google ads are just not payinng the bills they will find meaning elsewhere and do something productive.

    • Propaganda paid for by the Feds. Have you really not realized that vapor and dust do not contain poisons and toxins without somebody putting it there. Blind boot licking troll.

    • Indeed, vapor can only contain poisons and toxins if someone puts it in there. That’s why no intelligent person on the planet takes your kind seriously: the Tin Foil Hat crowd CLAIMS the government (or the Jews, or the Zionists, or the Illuminati, or the Reptilians, or whoever, depending on your preferred version of the conspiracy lunacy) put it there, but they consistently fail to PROVE it.

    • I know Jeroen from elsewhere. His family is invested in the medical industry and he is a total shill lol. He often disrupts positive social endeavors.

      His arguments are a total shame, because he is totally lame. He says it is unwise to spray chemtrails because they don’t insta-kill, but his arguments are full of total lies like a shill. McDonald’s is genocide and poisons everybody but it doesn’t insta-kill either, so his arguments are INVALID still.

      Also, he looks like a shill, a paid Faux News reporter or something.

      Scientifically speaking, they sprayed chemtrails over my home one day, no doubt they were retailiating for me posting some facts about flouride I’d say. The chemtrails were a steady stream for one mile, then there was a 500 ft gap, then it began to stream again for a while. This implies that there was an on-off switch and deliberate release of chemtrails into my niche! Temperatures don’t suddenly gap in the sky forming magic ice exhaust trails that suddenly gap in patches up high!

    • Question Mr Jeroen Troll Miester, how do you account for the “con trails” and the “grids” they make over areas that are NOT in any commercial air traffic patterns?

    • So, the evil bastards doing this, are willing to take themselves and their families out, in order to get the rest of us?

    • I’m very well aware of the fact that these idiots ignore (and even hate) science and logic, and I’m aware of the fact that nothing in the world can change their minds. I must say that I do derive an almost satanic pleasure from cornering them by using science and logic, and then watch them as they desperately and in vain try to wurm themselves out of that corner. 🙂

    • Let me say it this way. If you know what your looking for or what is happening you have an advantage do you not? There are treatments such as blood filtering, and those with the know have regular access to nutrient dense natural food and of course there is avoidance when necessary.

    • because everyone knows shills don’t exist…..oh wait that’s right everyone who’s self aware does in fact know shills exist , and we know that the only people who are outspoken about shills not existing are the shills themselves , hmmmmmm makes me wonder…….

    • You know me from elsewhere? That’s odd, because I’ve never heard of you before—and as far as I know, nobody in what’s left of the family tree has ties to the medical industry, save for that one highly intelligent niece who went to medical school and now serves her community as a General Practitioner. So, tell me, who else in the family tree has ties to the medical industry?

      But we should really believe that the government (or the Illuminati, or the Zionists, or whoever, depending on which version of the chemtrails conspiracy theory you subscribe to) sent a plane 30,000 ft up in the air just to spray your house because you posted some science-denying, paranoid and delusional conspiracy fairy tale?

      Anyway, thanks for calling me a shill. In your paranoid, delusional, out-of-touch-with-reality world, a shill is anyone who prefers science, logic, and hard evidence over idiotic, science-denying conspiracy theories that aren’t backed by any evidence whatsoever, so I’ll consider the title of ‘shill’ a badge of honour. 🙂

    • Jeroen isn’t a nutcase; I’m sure he’s very well paid for supporting this genocidal depopulation program. He’s an antisocial psychopath; a Zionazi satanist; an adversary of life on the planet.
      How do these pathological liars explain the fact that there are no chemtrails observed (by satellite or ground-based observers) over China and Russia. Intelligent water vapor molecules that detect national borders?

    • You only get flack when you’re over the target; there’s no better confirmation (other than the lab analyses and photos of sprayer nozzles, etc) of the deception sold by trolls here.

    • BTW, why would a judge in Colorado, court order the removal of her daughter, simply because she mentioned ‘chemtrails’ at her daughter’s school…..
      No other allegations have ever been made against this mother and she has a spotless record.

      So many things have been done without consult or explanation to the very people. left in most cases, ‘to pay for the messes, left’. We all have had enough and ask that the degree of unaccountable spending on ‘projects’ classified –stop!…And exposure of all be done…regularly–or maybe we start suing for those that do or authorize be held financially and totally accountable…

    • A shill is any internet fag who trusts the gov. Seriously stop talking, you’re lame and boring with bloated paragraphs. The planes weren’t 30,000 ft high, you moron, some planes are only 1000 ft high where I live. Ur a fag and a bloated fatass writer lol. You aint got no argument you just call me delusional over and over like an angry queer. FYI I like science and logic more than you do faggot.

    • I’m not familiar with any case of a Colorado judge (or any other judge anywhere in the world, for that matter) ordering a child removed from his/her parents after one of said parents mentioning some paranoid, delusional conspiracy theory. Without the court documents, I can’t comment on it.

    • And here we go again: the standard tactic of paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutters of hurling insults at their opponents, once they’ve found they got cornered by science and logic, and then desperately try to get out of that corner. Your poor grammar and spelling proves once again the massive overlap between conspiracy nutters and people with low intelligence. Heck, I dare even say that ‘conspiracy nutters’ is actually a subset of the ‘people with low IQ’ population group.

      So, tell me, why are you hiding between an alias and a standard avatar? What are you so afraid of that you don’t dare reveal your real name and your face? Afraid that people will recognise you as that guy who lives down the street in that house with the ‘A Registered Sex Offender Lives Here’ sign in the front yard, perhaps? Don’t want the tax collector to find out about your monthly paycheck from Alex Jones?

      BTW, you still haven’t told me where you allegedly know me from, and who in my family allegedly has ties to the medical industry. I reckon it’s just more proof that you’re just making things up—but that’s to be expected from someone who believes in out-of-touch-with-reality conspiracy theories.

    • You obviously dont have a clue, The conditions for vapor trails are a rare occurrence. Do some research!

    • Theres a good sheep, Just stay asleep. Every things fine no need to worry. The conditions for vapor trails are rare, So explain the trails clearly visible every day?

    • Carnt make your point so go to the insults, Chemtrails are reported world wide not in one small area, Countries the world over are in class actions over geo engineering. So the people of the world are all conspiracy nutters to? You are fast becoming a minority.

    • Well dont you know so much about conspiracy theorist! Sounds to me like you have been around the traps eh?

    • Aren’t you the crabby little she-queen! “Nutters?” Can’t you disagree without coming across as a frustrated spinster?

      You want scientific proof Joroen DinkleWhacker? Do you have the capacity to read documents and analyses published by real adults from the scientific and military communities? Do you know how to “read between the lines?” Are you familiar with DEWs, RF and scalar wave weapons or do you only accept what you hear from the mainstream media?

      While the “purpose” of the chemtrails is most likely not to poison the population, there are at least 6 to 10 different technologies at work – which can be integrated with the dispersal of particles at altitude – nano or otherwise.

      Now Miss Crabby, before you untwist your panties and even attempt to respond, I suggest you look at the USAF’s 1996 paper entitled “Owning the Weather by 2025: Weather as a Force Multiplier.” FYI – while only weather is directly discussed in that paper, if you understand RF/Wave combinations which result in scalar fields, then you may want to google “Malech 1976 Patent” and then use that little noggin of yours to imagine what the powers that be could be up to when Malech’s tech (in use since the 1950s) is combined with AIMs – Artificial Ionospheric Mirrors (discussed at length in the paper – by USAF scientists).

      The paper actually alludes to other classified operations without directly referencing them. But if you are not well-versed in military tech, and often under-published info on little-known weapons systems, then u won’t realize that what they aren’t directly referencing (other than in a few words which will slip by the casual reader) is even more important than the “focus” of the PDF.

      And BTW – while you are at it – look up Project Popeye. While the rather provincial belief that they are “poisoning the population” is a bit off, what they are up to is far more nefarious than what the average person can grasp since they aren’t familiar with the plethora of technologies which have been integrated for geoengineering, psyops, scalar field generation, etc.

      Lets see if you just comment on here in an attempt to buttress your emasculated ego by acting so condescending to people, or if you have the capability to actually read, think, process and make decisions on your own. I am just waiting for you to respond that the USAF PDF is quackery.

      You are just as naive and incorrect as the plaintiffs who think that it is poison which is being released, but at least they have the sense to recognize that the purpose(s) for such activities are indeed detrimental to everyone’s health.

      The real scientific studies and 20 to 50 year old military operations – which have been documented – demonstrate that you are simply sniping and shilling these people out of spite or personal issues. You speak about science, yet what the USAF has published + the patents which have been available for public access for 40+ years show that you don’t know a frogging thing about this topic. You sound like a spoiled and irate child.

      IMHO you won’t have the balls to read the USAF PDF – because it will disprove every one of your pre-adolescent insults on this thread.

    • You have done nothing but insult, Amazing how you can see others but carnt see yourself lol.

    • You nailed some of it – check out Owningthe Weather by 2025 – USAF and then Google Malech 1976 Patent. Artificial Ionospheric Mirrors can be used to strengthen and spread scalar fields from intersecting radars – if you read malech’s 1976 Patent brief it is obvious what else this can be used for

    • Vectoring towards and away from airport(s) versus symmetrical intersecting grid patterns (checkerboards) over large expanses of visible sky.

    • Read my response(s) to Joreon above with directions to USAF publications and patents. This is science, but the problem is that most of it is classified and unless you know where to search for it in the public realm, it isn’t so easy to find.

    • You aren’t using science and logic. You are simply belittling people. If you are referring to high school science, you definitely are an impressive little lass. If you are referring to now-declassified publications, or buried pdf’s from government agencies – you certainly aren’t at the top of any IQ scale for mammals who can walk in an upright position.

      You come across as a self-impressed mommy’s boy.

    • I agree, seemed too beyond the norm.
      Prior to 2008, I would never have thought the 1%, could dare expose themselves, or the degree of their extreme psycho-greed…..I mean, even the IMF has begged hedge fund owners to deleverage their estimated 823 trillion in o/s derivative contracts, globally, to no avail. But given, that these owners were carelessly offered ‘preferred creditor’ status if any bank defaulted, is it any wonder they feel enabled and empowered to do as they please….with no legal repercussions?

    • http://science-edu.larc.nasa.gov/contrail-edu/science.php

      Warning: article written by scientific organisation. For conspiracy nutters, exposure to science may result in vomiting, hysterical reactions, as well as vitriolic responses that in comparison make Tourette syndrome look like perfectly normal behaviour. Conspiracy nutters who show any of these symptoms are advised to seek immediate psychiatric help.

    • Chemtrails can’t be reported, as they don’t exist. Or more precisely, they don’t exist in the real world, only in the paranoid, delusional minds of conspiracy nutters, who don’t either don’t understand what contrails are, or perhaps do understand but get paid by Alex Jones to parrot his insane conspiracy theories. As much as you’ll hate it, the vast majority of the world’s population doesn’t believe your bullshit theories. You don’t become a majority just by claiming you are one. You conspiracy nutters never have been a majority, you never will be; you’re just a tiny fringe group, and that’s what you’ll remain.

    • And here we have another fine example of a hiding-behind-anonimity conspiracy nutter who resorts to insults. Come back when you’re an adult and can write your own responses, rather than copying and pasting the text provided by your employer Alex Jones.

    • I have proven various conspiracy nutters here wrong over and over again. Don’t whine about insults; your kind use insults as a standard tactic to try and shut up intelligent, educated people who don’t buy your bullshit theories, so don’t be surprised when people start returning the favour.

    • Yes, I know, in your world it’s called bullshit. Us intelligent, educated people call it science.

    • Quite a statement, coming from someone who hides behind anonimity and habitually uses insults to try and shut up people who don’t buy his delusions. So, tell me, what are you hiding? Criminal record as sex offender? Tax evasion? You are aware that you have to pay income tax over that money Alex Jones pays you every month to be his shill, right?

    • Nope punk. I don’t know anything about Alex Jones. I gave you the title of a PDF put out by the USAF in 1996 which explains how the atmosphere can be manipulated and weather used as a force modifier. No cut and paste at all.

      You asked for scientific proof – I gave it to you. With statements by more than half a dozen PhD’s and scientists – the same people who developed the technology.

      Insults? I came on this thread looking to see what other people felt and saw an ignorant little lady-man abusing people – and let’s face it, you refuse to even look at the USAF PDF because you shoot off yr mouth without any educational background.

      Now go write another science fiction book you foolish little child. You obviously had few friends as a youth and now we now why yr wife was so effin sick of you. She made a good choice dumping you loser.

    • i know lots of people claim that , but it doesn’t always have to be the false dichotomy of truther or disinfo agent , that’s just another exploitable divide and conquer opportunity to think like that , where as from what i’ve seen it’s more likely to be the case that with cases like alex jones , they can be interested in some truths about things , but also be interested in their own ideals or culture of finances , so exposing truths about things sometimes isn’t their sole motivation….

      and no off the cuff random generic hand gestures with no context is 1 not proof of anything and 2 such an easy attention grabbing tool for semi self aware people to use…..

    • Beejaym you really need to dig deeper and read up on Geo-engineering, climate engineering, weather modification and high altitude aerosol spraying. Its even listed in the Smithsonian. Over 100 jet fuel patents with these special ingredients included that leave a white spray turning into wide long clouds and I’ve seen a few jets that only create contrails at the same time.

    • Apparently you forgot about the jet engine exhaust that’s blowing out at what 1200 degrees?

    • The only thing besides tests that they spray and that is done very rarely is for cloud seeding causing the condesation aka clouds to condense into water and rain in drought ridden areas. There are no chemtrails. Especially not from ever major commercial airliner! Liberalism, it’s a form of brain disease and mental retardation.

    • A document about how something CAN be done is not proof that it GETS done. I can write a document about how I can track you down and slit your throat, but that doesn’t mean it’s actually going to happen.

      So far, every single bit of ‘proof’ you and other conspiracy nutters have provided has turned out to not prove anything. So no, you once again haven’t provided any scientific proof for anything, other than for the fact that you’re a paranoid, delusional idiot who can’t think for himself, has no education and only a very low IQ, hides behind anonimity like the coward that he is, resorts to insults and personal attacks when people don’t buy his paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories, and can’t even spell properly.

    • ‘Liberalism’ has nothing to do with it. In fact, my own extensive research has shown that there’s an almost 100% overlap between conspiracy nutters and right wing extremists. And on sites like this, it’s really just a waste of time and energy to point out all the flaws in conspiracy theories, because most people here are just mindless sheep on Alex Jones’ payroll; the only thing they contribute to the world is their entertainment value.

    • Referring to you as “Lady-man” was not meant to be insulting. I truly am sorry. In this age of political correctness, I was simply applying the most suitable gender-identification label to the little Euro-monkey I was attempting to engage in a rationale conversation, thus the moniker “Lady-man.”

      “Insults,” Lady-man? You use the same abusive vocabulary with everyone one here, ranging from “Conspiracy-nutter” to “Extremist Lady-man” offender. Did thy mother mate with a monkey Lady-man? Was she a Primate-Nutter-Butter-lover? Is you uber-toothy and laughable appearance the reason you harbor so much anger for the world, the reason your wife left you?

      You stated I have a low IQ. You are correct. It is very low, I struggle with English, have no upper-level education, and am confounded by the possibility at even attempting to read anything above the level of the childish gibberish you write and refer to as literature.

      You are an “author?” LOL. Comedian maybe, but “author” you’re not. I bet your wife’s family breathed a sigh of relief when she dumped your arse and moved on to greener pastures. You are proof that God does indeed either have a sense of humor or makes an occasional mistake during the forging of “hominid” output such as yourself.

      In any case, Euro-monkey – attempting to enter a rational discourse with you is a fruitless endeavor, even though a primate such as yourself probably adores bananas – as your mum certainly did.

    • You have not produced a shred of anything other than running off at the mouth. The topic as you like to deviate from it is contrails v chemtrails

    • As you can read it is impossible for modern plane to produce them. Even when they could it was at altitudes over 60,000feet and even then the weather conditions had to be ideal, Which is almost never. So you red headed cock sucker (if thats you or your real name) your done. Your little band of dick wads can eat me also. Your debunked.

    • LOL. Another case of a conspiracy nutter who actually believes that he can prove he’s right by pointing to content on other science-denying conspiracy websites. As for deviating from the original subject: that was to be expected, it’s standard conspiracy nutter practice to deviate from the initial topic when they find out they’ve once again been cornered.

    • And here we go again: the standard tactic of shills: to ignore the evidence presented and pretend they’re still right in a desperate shilling attempt to convince others of what they’re being paid to convince them of

    • i even linked you a video of a plane flying at low altitude like that guy says maybe only 1000ft dumping it’s toxic payload over a densely populated city….

      inb4 no response to this evidence and more shilling comments away….

    • he doesn’t have the mental capacity , i linked him a document signed by a head md at GSK that was reporting on children getting autism from vacancies they were given , he responded saying to point to the page that said this cause he didn’t think i could , then i ctrl+f’ed the pages and told him it’s called using ctrl+f , then he claimed that the document only says the word autism and doesn’t prove that the vaccines caused it , when that’s literally what the introduction to the over 1k page report says it is

      he is so much of a bleeding die hard shill that he can’t even read an introduction to a document explaining what it is or how to use ctrl+f to find the information

      you can see it all in the comments on this thread , this just happened yesterday , and im starting to seriously worry now just how brain damaged this guy is…..

    • hey now , i had few friends as a youth and still in my young adulthood , that’s not a nice thing to make fun of people for…

      make fun of him not having any friends now due to his obvious employment as a shill….

    • That’s indeed one of the standard tactics of conspiracy nutters (both the paid and unpaid shills for Alex Jones): ignore the evidence presented that proves them wrong, and pretend they’re still right in a desperate shilling attempt to convince others of what they’re being paid to convince them of.

    • How many times do I have to point out to you that links to other conspiracy nutter websites don’t exactly qualify as ‘proof’ of anything? So far, you and your other aliases haven’t provided a single shred of proof for these alleged ‘chemtrails.’ All you do is point to other conspiracy websites, and link to documents that, upon closer examination, don’t prove anything. And thanks to that approach, conspiracy nutters have lost and all credibility they ever might have had.

    • oh neat you ignored the evidence in my post that proves you wrong , according to you that makes you a conspiracy nutter , and i have little interest in communicating with stupid people , or shills such as yourself , though i will continue to denounce any bs (bad science) you post here….

    • >links scientific research document proving the issue
      >claims the document doesn’t , for no reason

      holy shit you actually are functionally retarded aren’t you? linking pdf =/= linking website , nor is something being hosted on a particular website grounds to dismiss it , every reply you make just sounds like the desperate gasps of a fish out of water…..or in this case a shill without an argument that can distract me from dispelling your attempts at disinfo…..

    • As always, your post didn’t contain evidence for anything other than the fact that you’re a science–denying, paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter and a paid shill for Alex Jones.

    • If the website in question is a science-denying conspiracy nutter website (like this one), then there’s every reason to dismiss any post or document on that website as unreliable information.

      BTW, I’ve done a little bit of research into that Herndon guy. Your kind has the habit of posting false information, and guess what: Herndon is known conspiracy nutter, and that paper has been debunked and retracted because of the numerous flaws in it. So much for your ‘proof.’

      Get educated at:
      https://debunkingdenialism.com/2015/09/05/flawed-chemtrails-paper-by-herndon-retracted/
      http://www.webcitation.org/6bJmeEVNp
      http://www.webcitation.org/6bJmrHIsi
      http://www.webcitation.org/6bJmeq2ui

    • >provides irrefutable video evidence
      >claims provided no evidence
      hhahahahahah man you’re a funny guy for a shill 😀 …..

    • very good! see you are capable of having a real discussion when you have some ammunition to use in your shilling position at least

      indeed that paper i linked was redacted , this got you to play that next move you did , of actually providing evidence to refute the other person’s claims

      now that you’ve shown you are capable of doing that and adhering to an academic/intellectual standard for your thought process or whatever , now let’s see that if you can’t find a refutation or redaction of these reports

      http://www.currentscience.ac.in/Volumes/108/12/2173.pdf
      http://www.arizonaskywatch.com/charts/our%20charts/index.html
      http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987704000222

      which are just a few of the many that can be easily found even through their own references , will you give up the shill vial and admit that there is an undeniable global toxic heavy metal contamination that can only result from the process of mining the raw materials , refining them into nano particulates , and dispersing them as aerosols in the atmosphere by jet tankers , which are major components of the ongoing global geoengineering experiments?…..

    • Article on Current Science: written by Marvin Herndon, who already managed to lose his credibility thanks to his conspiracy lunacy.
      Arizona Skywatch: conspiracy website, and thus no reliable source of information, as pointed out numerous times already
      Sciencedirect: only an abstract of a scientific paper, no access to the full paper so no ‘proof’ for you ‘chemtrails’ there either, and in your case a case of standard copy-and-paste work as this stuff is way over your head. To make it even worse (for you and your kind), the late Mark Purdey’s views are embraced by the conspiracy nutters but not accepted by the scientific community because of his shoddy way of conducting research.

      And now, if you will excuse me, I’ll just go sit back and see how long it will take you to reach the end of the standard conspiracy nutters phase of ‘Flood Opponents With Links To Articles That Really Don’t Prove Our Conspiracy Theories In The Hope That Our Opponents Will Give Up Because They Unlike Us Actually Have A Life And Have More Interesting Things To Do Than Just Keep Debunking Our Pseudo-Evidence.’

    • 1 pathetic attempt at character assassination cause you can’t refute the evidence
      2 another pathetic attempt at character assassination cause you can’t refute the evidence , only this time the character assassination isn’t even relevant to the evidence presented , so it’s even more pathetic and funny

      “All our samples were tested in Arizona Department of Environmental
      Quality approved laboratories, using the long-established ICP scan
      method of analyzing metals (EPA Method 200.7), that is the Determination of Metals and Trace Elements in Water and Wastes by Inductively Coupled
      Plasma-Atomic Spectrometry,”

      it’s not mine or their fault if nobody else wants to admit to the toxic contamination proved by their lab tests , but until you can refute it the evidence still stands….

      3 http://www.wnho.net/BariumPoisoningStudy.pdf you fÜcking little bitch do i seriously need to search every report who’s name i give when you can’t immediately click on the full pdf from the links i provide? you incompetent child shill FÜCK IM BOTH PISSED AND LAUGHING AT THE SAME TIME XD

      im gonna have to start treating you accordingly like the retard you are which you got from those vaccines that i proved to you cause autism that i never heard you respond thanking me for enlightening you on that matter eh?…..

    • My IQ is higher than yours. The subset of anal retentives and people who care about spelling is high. So you are a prat.

  5. I know for a fact that this claim has been drafted (you morons paid for that) but it has NOT been lodged and CANNOT be lodged without evidence which is suitable to convince a magistrate that a claim worthy of testing in the courts can be lodged.

    No evidence has ever surfaced and this is the fourth such endeavour since 2008 that has failed to be lodged. The failure to lodge the claim conclusively proves the absence of evidence for the claim.

    • There has been samples recovered in many differents cities across north America, and they were found to contain poisonous heavy metals like Barium, Aluminum, Lead, and many others… These particles before falling are radioactively charged by the Sun, the health hazards are endless, and this practice of Governments allowing for this to happen is monstrously Evil, and whoever is responsible should be poisoned and left to die!!!

      • And where is the evidence that the trails in the sky are the source of any of the things you mentioned? Oh yeah…no such evidence exists.

  6. I know for a fact that this claim has been drafted (you morons paid for that) but it has NOT been lodged and CANNOT be lodged without evidence which is suitable to convince a magistrate that a claim worthy of testing in the courts can be lodged.

    No evidence has ever surfaced and this is the fourth such endeavour since 2008 that has failed to be lodged. The failure to lodge the claim conclusively proves the absence of evidence for the claim.

    • There has been samples recovered in many differents cities across north America, and they were found to contain poisonous heavy metals like Barium, Aluminum, Lead, and many others… These particles before falling are radioactively charged by the Sun, the health hazards are endless, and this practice of Governments allowing for this to happen is monstrously Evil, and whoever is responsible should be poisoned and left to die!!!

    • And where is the evidence that the trails in the sky are the source of any of the things you mentioned? Oh yeah…no such evidence exists.

  7. I’d reply with a snarky comment but it would probably go over your head. Like the chemtrails that don’t exist.

    Do you know what cumulus clouds actually are? CHEMPUFFS!

    • Oh and the zig zag lines in the sky left by planes that linger for hours and spread are simply products of our imagination, right?

      Do you have eyes? If so, do you bother to open them? Are you capable of using your powers of observation to see something that is obviously very not normal going on? Perhaps it is willful blindness.

  8. I’d reply with a snarky comment but it would probably go over your head. Like the chemtrails that don’t exist.

    Do you know what cumulus clouds actually are? CHEMPUFFS!

    • Oh and the zig zag lines in the sky left by planes that linger for hours and spread are simply products of our imagination, right?

      Do you have eyes? If so, do you bother to open them? Are you capable of using your powers of observation to see something that is obviously very not normal going on? Perhaps it is willful blindness.

  9. We all know how this is going to end, right? For a court to order a halt to the spraying of ‘chemtrails,’ the court will need to see evidence that it’s actually happening. However, as these ‘chemtrails’ only exist in the delusional minds of conspiracy nutters, they cannot be sprayed, therefore the practice of spraying ‘chemtrails’ doesn’t exist, therefore the court can’t put an end to it, leaving the court with no other option than to dismiss the case. After that, the conspiracy nutters will again whine about all this being ‘a cover-up’ by the government and the court, whose judges are of course all on the payroll of the CIA/NSA/Mossad/Jews/Bankers/Illuminati/Reptilians/Whoever.

    • bro we all know you’re being a shill here , but it’s about time the shills stop this shit and realize your life has already been made forfeit by these experiments , go ahead and get a blood test from a reputable firm for nano sized particles and post us the results of the test (we already have hundreds of state certified lab tests from around the globe proving a global off the charts level of toxic heavy metal contamination , but you don’t care about that , but maybe you’ll care about your own blood) , i mc.fucken dare you…..

      • Am I a shill? Yes, I’m a shill—for science, logic, and reason. If you want me to believe this ‘chemtrails’ bullshit is true, then you’ll have to provide solid, irrefutable evidence for it. Claims by paranoid, out-of-touch-with-reality conspiracy nutters don’t qualify as evidence, claims from alleged ‘experts’ who don’t back their claims with solid evidence don’t qualify either.
        Show me the documents proving that the government has some Big Secret Plan to spray us all with chemicals to control us. Show me the contracts between the government and the producers of those chemicals that prove the government regularly places huge orders for those chemicals. Show me the evidence that the trucks leaving those chemical plants contain ‘chemtrails’ to be delivered to the government. Show me the written orders for pilots to spray chemicals from high altitude, and include plane registration numbers and flight plans.
        Rather than suggesting I get my blood tested, you should prove that those ‘chemtrails’ are real. And while you’re at it, post proof for those ‘hundreds of state certified lab tests from around the globe.’

          • Once again, the only ‘proof’ comes in the form of links to other conspiracy nutter websites. Shouldn’t you add links to Alex Jones’ YouTube channel as well?

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            an idiotic paranoid conspiracy , that takes some serious stupid….

            i
            purposefully linked to geowatch again so you would take the bait of
            trying to discredit all the links i provided by trying to claim it isn’t
            a credible source (which it is anyways)

            so yeah in by doing so
            you’ve also claimed that this highly reputable scientific journal
            publication site , isn’t , it’s not possible to even pretend to come
            back with credibility after making a statement like that , you’re over
            it’s done , you’ll never convince anyone of your pay master’s lies , you
            should just stop…..

            but you wont cause shills always have the
            last comment , it’s what is visible at the end of a conversation so
            that’s where you’ll get the most views for what you’re getting paid to
            lie about…..

            also it would help to make it a slight challenge to
            identify shills if you weren’t all so equally stupid and predictable in
            conversation cues……but why do i bother telling you that , you don’t
            think , so it’s not like you could do anything with that information
            anyways , and then the game gets boring for me….

          • Eh, Alex Jones was the first to blow the whistle on a host of things and now he is proving to be correct on most of them such as 9/11 False Flag. If the gov’t will kill 3000, we need to ask ourselves what won’t they do to gain their evil agenda, NWO, Agenda 21. Chemtrails are not the only form of eugenics being used: vaccines which cause autism, GMO’s in the food supply, fluoride, lead, radiation in the water supply, Big Pharma, always claiming the cure is coming but pushing band aids which cause people to become sicker. So far as who will do The Elite’s dirty work? Robots. They don’t need people anymore. We are not only witnessing a takeover but it is a technocracy takeover. I could go on. I don’t have proof of Chemtrails and the harmful effects but I don’t trust the government as they work in secrecy all the while spying on us.

          • Alex Jones isn’t a whistleblower, he’s one of the world’s biggest conspiracy nutters. None of his claims have ever been proven, the only thing Jones has proven is that he’s paranoid, delusional, and completely out of touch with reality.
            So, tell me, how much does Alex Jones pay you to be his shill and repeat all those not-backed-by-any-evidence claims?

          • How dare you call me such, Jeroen. I don’t get paid one single dime from Alex Jones or anyone. The only satisfaction I get is in getting out the truth in hopes of waking a few people up to the tyranny and treason. We are losing America. I cannot put it anymore blunter. And, to note: Many of Joneses claims from 20 years ago are coming to fruition so you might want to take heed and hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

          • Why shouldn’t I call you a paid shill for Alex Jones? I get called a paid shill for BigPharma (and BigCorp, and the government, and every other organisation you hate) all the time by your kind for pointing out the flaws and the science denial in your claims, and asking questions you don’t want to answer because the answer wouldn’t match your paranoid, delusional fantasies.

            You’re not ‘getting the truth’ out. Truth is based on facts and evidence; claims that have been debunked countless times already don’t become ‘truth’ if you just repeat them often enough. For example, you claim that vaccines cause autism, yet numerous scientific studies and meta studies, together involving over 10 million (!) children, have failed to find even a single bit of evidence for it. Yet despite all this scientific research, your kind keeps insisting that vaccines cause autism, while at the same time failing to provide the evidence for it.

          • if that’s the case about the ‘science of vaccines’ , then how did that itallian court rule that vaccines caused autism? could it be…..that you’re a lying shill? i think so…..

            also wrong , no one has ever called you a shill for “pointing out the flaws and the science denial in your claims,” , you’re exposed for being a shill when you deny the reality of the scientific facts being presented , such as the lab tests i linked you , how’s refuting that going btw?…..

          • You mean that decision by some provincial court that based its entire decision on Andrew Wakefield’s fraudulent ‘research’? You are aware that said court was later overruled by a higher court because there was and is in fact not a shred of scientific evidence linking autism to vaccines? Or is that a piece of information you prefer to ignore because it doesn’t match your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theory?

            http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/italian-mmr-autism-decision-overturned/

          • was not aware of the later overruling , tried to look up info , the only english site talking about this i could readily find is the blog you linked , so im unable to look into the court details themselves….

            so going by what the other blogs and news sites are saying about the case , it appears that this court ruling was based on an expert witness who gave testimony based off of andrew’s report , whatever it may be (i was unable to find it despite all the searching and link jumping im doing) , in where some of it’s points like those us court cases , were based off of testimony rather than scientific evidence , due diligence is always done when you can character assassinate the opposition eh?…..

            but as i was researching , i came across this nifty little document….

            =ok first im gonna try posting this without the link here=

            oh and would you look at that , autism is listed several times as conditions people got from being injected with toxic poisons and viruses , who would have figured?….

            the evidence on matters like these aren’t hard to find , for anyone who wants to look , but again to be clear for anyone else reading these shills im responding to here aren’t interested in looking up evidence , only in trying to distract other people from it , cause that’s what they’re being paid to do….

            so come on then mr lying shill , can you refute a report paper signed by dr. felix allerando md , a head at glaxosmithcline , that vaccines cause autism?

            of the lab tests i linked that prove the global toxic fallout from the ongoing global geoengineeing experiments? still waiting on that one but you keep ignoring it……and i think we all know why that is…….

          • Standard tactic: keep throwing documents that don’t prove your claims at people who don’t buy your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories, in the hope that they’ll give up because they have more important things to do.
            Unfortunately for you, that 1000+ page document doesn’t say vaccines cause autism. In fact, dozens of studies, involving over 10 million children in total, have not found any evidence for any link between vaccines and autism.
            You may want to learn the difference between causation and correlation. You may also want to actually read that document yourself and start getting your information from reliable sources, rather than blindly copying and pasting links from conspiracy websites, and/or links that your employer Alex Jones tells you to post.
            And while you’re at it, you may also want to learn what autism really is…

          • standard tactic: ignoring reality when it doesn’t suit your narrative

            the documents clearly state subjects (the children) got autism when they were vaccinated (injected with toxins and viruses)

            it’s not a third party document , it’s signed by your employer’s power structure ally gsk

            i have been diagnosed with autism btw….

          • It can’t say children got autism from vaccination, because science has already proven over and over again that there’s no link between the two. But feel free to tell me on which page it says otherwise—although I doubt you can, because you’re just copying and pasting claims from this and/or other conspiracy nutter websites.

          • no , you can’t say children got autism from vaccinations because you’re paid to convince others that that’s not the case , where as in reality the causal mechanisms have been proven extensively for anyone who wants to look up the information , such as myself , who also found this document catching the evil doers red handed for this

            page 24 , 626 , 632 , 756 , and 992 , it’s called ctrl + F btw…..
            also , in between these over a thousand pages of lists , are all the other horrible conditions these autism sticks have been giving the current forced vaccine raised generation…..

            but the public perception on this matter is rather old , everyone already knows most of this , no sense retreading it here when we’re supposed to be talking about geoengineering….

            but hey whatever your job description says right?

            no matter for me since every single post you make is actually helping people wake up more , not less , by seeing how obvious of a shill you are…..

          • I realise this will be difficult to understand for someone like you who is not hindered by any intelligence, but the fact that you are a paid shill for Alex Jones doesn’t mean everyone is a paid shill. I can tell you again that I’m not getting paid by anyone to shoot holes in your pathetic, paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutters, but you’re so paranoid and delusional that you won’t believe it anyway. After all, as a paid shill for Alex Jones, you’re getting paid to only believe what that idiot tells you.

          • “I realise this will be difficult to understand for someone like you who is not hindered by any intelligence,”…….
            i th…ink you’re the one that has a hindered intelligence here , just what?….

            anyways i could easily flag your comment there since it’s nothing but a pile a personal attacks , trying again with the character assassination? can’t you shills come up with anything new or interesting?…..

            er but anyways , im not going to flag it cause again your comments are doing more for the cause of waking people up than trying to keep them deceived

            every response you make where you don’t refute the evidence i presented only compounds on that fact , so by all means keep shilling away….

          • LOL. Even understanding the most simple questions is obviously too difficult for you. I asked you to tell me on which page it says that vaccines cause autism, I didn’t ask for a list of pages on which the word ‘autism’ occurs. The mere mentioning of the word ‘autism’ doesn’t even come close to being ‘proof’ (which doesn’t exist anyway, as science has already determined there’s no link between vaccines and autism).

          • oh uh you made 2 separate replies to my previous comment there? ok then…

            oh no i understood your question perfectly , my mistake was thinking you were able to read , clearly that is not the case , for if you read the introduction on the document you would see it is a report listing all the adverse effects of the vaccines that they did safety tests for , and among the thousands upon thousands of other horrible effects , autism is one of them listed on those page numbers i gave…..

            ….im reluctant for wanting to even tell your shilling self to bugger off now , im started to get worried about how mentally retarded you may actually be , how many vaccines have you yourself suffered through?….

          • I looked at that page about lab tests. Observation #1: It’s posted on a conspiracy nutter website. Observation #2 is a quote from that page: ‘A second series of lab tests has now confirmed high levels of barium and aluminum in snow Dickie thinks fell through chemtrails. So far, he says, there is no other explanation for the high-levels of each chemical compound in city soils.’ In other words, the guy admits he doesn’t KNOW the cause, he only has a theory.

          • is that made by the same person? is that his personal blog or something? i know that’s something shills can sometimes have…..

          • Actually, I divorced her. Once again, the conspiracy nutters can’t get their facts straight.

            So, tell me, why are you hiding behind anonimity? Afraid people will recognise you as the guy who lives down the street in that house with the ‘A Registered Sex Offender Lives Here’ sign in the front yard? Hiding your monthly pay by Alex Jones from the IRS?

          • I beg to disagree, Alex figured out that he could make a lot of money selling this to the gullible, his bank account now has over 7 figures in it, he was just a flat broke radio commentator when he started.

          • Well, he needs the money. Paying dozens, if not hundreds, of his shills to help spread his paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories must really add up over time.

        • I remember very clearly what contrails looked like when I was a kid. Never did they span the horizon, they dissipated almost instantly. When did the laws of physics change to support your arguements?

        • And don’t tell us it’s not possible for one of you nutters to fly a plane, a balloon, etc, manned or unmanned through one and gather a sample to prove their BS. Wonder why that hasn’t happened? They would have their undeniable proof, which is why you won’t see it done. F’ing idiots. See how easy it is to shoot down your lunacy?

          • I’m still waiting for the conspiracy nutters to actually do that, but apparently they’re too lazy for that, and prefer to just keep posting the same bullshit over and over again. But hey, they’re getting paid by Alex Jones to do that, if they stop it would mean the end of that generous monthly paycheck.

          • actually that’s not even necessary , as i figured out yesterday

            we’re not the only ones claiming something positive here , you are as well ,
            but you are also lacking the same kind of evidence to prove you shilling
            position as you are demanding of us

            so in actuality we don’t have to prove a thing to your shill claim that the aerosol trails being sprayed by the jet tankers are contrails until you actually gets that ridiculous evidence for yourself to prove that it is….

            in the mean time we can keep sharing all the other evidence we have on this geoengineering matter……

          • Those white lines in the sky are contrails. If you want to claim they’re ‘chemtrails’ and that the government (or whoever) is spraying chemicals, it’s up to you to prove it. The fact that decades after this ‘chemtrails’ nonsense started, you still haven’t proven any of it, speaks volumes. So far, every single bit of ‘evidence’ you’ve come up (and repeated ad infinitum) has been debunked.
            Must be a pretty good paycheck from Alex Jones you get every month, if you keep repeating the same bullshit even when you get proven wrong over and over again.

          • “Those white lines in the sky are contrails.”

            prove it
            you have yet to prove this , because you can’t , i’ve already proven that they’re intentionally dispersed aerosol trails from the contamination of the toxic fallout from them in different ways , and by proven i mean with hard evidence not bad arguments which is all you have presented , it will be funny to see you try though…..

            >every single bit of ‘evidence’ you’ve come up (and repeated ad infinitum) has been debunked.

            LORLFORLFORLMROROLOLLULUZLZ , BY YOU JUST DECLARING THAT TO BE THE CASE FOR NO REASON RIGHT?! fÜck me that’s funny…..

          • Gawd, you really are too stupid to understanding anything other than the instructions from your employer Alex Jones, aren’t you? If you want to accuse the government of shady practices, it’s up to you to prove it (which you so far have failed to do), not for other to prove you wrong.
            Let me apply your standard conspiracy nutter tactic to something that will undoubtedly hit close to home for you, so that perhaps you will come to see the light. You are a rapist, a child molester, and a child murderer. Prove me wrong.

          • >asks to prove case
            >get’s called more names
            fÜck that’s funny!….

          • My case has already been proven—by that pesky little thing called SCIENCE. So, when’s that proof coming that you’re not a rapist, a child molester, and a child murderer? Because, you know, you seem rather in favour of the ‘guilty until proven innocent’ approach.

          • EEEEnope the site you linked to was a blog by some shity person who’s not even a scientist , and you’re a shity shill , and im still laughing my ass off at your persistent display of shilling XD ….

          • actually that’s not even necessary , as i figured out yesterday

            we’re not the only ones claiming something positive here , jeroen is as well , but he is also lacking the same kind of evidence to prove his shilling position as he is demanding of us

            so in actuality we don’t have to prove a thing to his claim that the aerosol trails being sprayed by the jet tankers are contrails until he actually gets that ridiculous evidence for himself to prove that it is….

            in the mean time we can keep sharing all the other evidence we have on this geoengineering matter……

          • So your saying that there havent been any such type of “samples” gathered as to support this accusation? That is where you are woefully ignorant. Research much?

          • Oh, do show me where it’s been done. Something so easy to prove unequivocally and yet it remains in the realm of nutjobs.

        • Jeroen, my dad used to say when you argue with a nut, its hard to tell the sane person from the peanut gallery.

      • Committee of 300; owners of the East India Trading Company who spread opium addiction across Asia and Europe.

    • And the water isn’t toxic, the food supply is cancerous. Heroin epidemic flown in from Afghanistan. It’s population reduction, part of the future. It’s always conspiracy nuts if your not parroting CNN . Keep your eyes closed tight sir, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.

      • The drug trade has nothing to do with some ‘secret agenda’ or ‘New World Order’ or anything similar. The drug trade is at its core just a matter of business and economics. You may want to look up information about ‘the law of supply and demand.’

        • business and monetary economics are the problem here , there is no infinite growth on a finite planet , and sustainable growth is an oxymoron…..

          • You’re mistaking me for that paranoid, delusional ‘iamli3’ character and his many aliases, who is clearly a paid shill for Alex Jones. Heck, I started ignoring him because nothing intelligent came out of him, and suddenly I get comments from conspiracy idiots I haven’t encountered before, which leads me to believe that you, englishvinal, and almost everyone else here, are all one and the same person. You certainly match the profile.

          • ROTFLMAO. First you spent weeks flooding this page with comments filled with hate and paranoid delusion, whilst cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘iamli3’ and a default avatar. Yesterday morning I noticed you hadn’t replied at all, which suggested you had finally realised I was not going to buy your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories.

            But then you created a new account, again cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘and’ this time, and sent out about ten replies. You really must be desperate for attention.

          • i would be embarrassed too if i wasn’t having such a great time milking this shill for lulz XD…..

          • You sir are willfully ignorant. Go search up operation popeye. Then u can visit the north american weather modification council nawmc.org this clearly states that cloud seeding and weather mods have been done for decades. Are you really that daft? And if you bother to actually spend some time reading about geoengineering instead of just visiting debunk shil sites about chemtrails and cnn fake newspropaganda you might actually understand something. Unless you are a indoctrinated leftist retard who venerates al gwhore

        • Thats just cognitive dissonance bro .
          hows afghan herion make it out of a war zone durig the war on terror ?
          Shoes ? Diapers ?

          • ROTFL. First you spent weeks flooding this page with comments filled with hate and paranoid delusion, whilst cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘iamli3’ and a default avatar. Yesterday morning I noticed you hadn’t replied at all, which suggested you had finally realised I was not going to buy your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories.

            But then you created a new account, again cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘and’ this time, and sent out about ten replies. You really must be desperate for attention.

          • Ah yes, ‘pedo,’ one of the favourite words of the world’s neonazis in their attempts to try and get intelligent people to shut up. You really should stop projecting your own sexual preference on other people.

    • Heres a link to a web site that does weather modification other wise known as cloud seating. As for your obtuse opinions about “nutters”, just shove that foot of yours a little futher in your mouth. And then after you check out the web site I sent you, you can take your foot out of your mouth and pull your head out of the sand. CIA/ mossad ect? Ha ha

      • So, tell me, exactly how much does Alex Jones pay you every month to spread his paranoid, delusional conspiracy fantasies and insult people who, unlike you and your kind, are smart enough to see through that bullshit and point out all the flaws in those paranoid fantasies?

          • Carry on, people, nothing to see here, just a cowardly-hiding-behind-anonimity, paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter who hides his identity because he doesn’t want you to find out he’s been convicted for multiple counts of child rape—including his own kids.

          • Had your arse handed to ya and carnt take it, Well boo hoo .You obviously never got the beating you deserved, Must be because your father liked to put his hands in your pants and share you around with his mates,daddies little boy, Carnt call it rape in your case because you like it!

          • I suspect a massive case of projection here. I take it you now defend your habit of raping children by claiming you’re a victim yourself? Must have really sucked that the court didn’t agree with you and sent you off to prison anyway, huh? Let me guess, you now actually need to be a paid shill for Alex Jones because you need to money to pay compensation to your victims? Guess getting a real job was too difficult for you.

          • You’re so funny. First you spent weeks flooding this page with comments filled with hate and paranoid delusion, whilst cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘iamli3’ and a default avatar. Yesterday morning I noticed you hadn’t replied at all, which suggested you had finally realised I was not going to buy your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories.

            But then you created a new account, again cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘and’ this time, and sent out about ten replies. You really must be desperate for attention.

          • fear -.o? but this shill is trying to convince everyone that there’s nothing wrong , we’re the ones saying there’s something we should be concerned about…..

          • OUCH!!! I hope he has insurance because thoes third degree burns are going to hurt for a while!!

          • wow…child rape huh? YOU are the one saying these evil things. so its obviously you who thinks these things…these are dark disgusting thoughts that are running through YOUR mind. yet you come on here slagging others off for their beliefs and make out others to be ‘sick’… You wanna check yourself in pal before the kids get hurt! Jeroen Van Kiddyfiddler

          • Ah, another cowardly-anonymous hater who believes that insulting people is a mature way of having a discussion. I can only wonder what you have to hide…
            You may want to read all the vitriol that has come my way from that paranoid, delusional Alex Jones shill who cowardly hides behind the alias ‘iamli3.’ Then again, you probably know exactly what he’s been vomiting, because I suspect that you’re on and the same guy; you appear to use a whole bunch of aliases here.

          • oh noes , mean words spoken over the internets , tumbler help me! :c…..

            also maybe if you stopped acting like a retarded power structure creepy child raping shill , people wouldn’t be making so much fun of you for it LOL…..

          • lol this is great you’ve made like a dozen comments one after another in every reply chain calling him out for being a troll/shill , my work has paid off XD ….

          • TROLL…. ignore Judas’s…. they get PAID to “post balancing information”.

          • Funny how the paid shills always go with pedophilia , seems like a case of mirroring for the masters

          • Funny. First you spent weeks flooding this page with comments filled with hate and paranoid delusion, whilst cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘iamli3’ and a default avatar. Yesterday morning I noticed you hadn’t replied at all, which suggested you had finally realised I was not going to buy your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories.

            But then you created a new account, again cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘and’ this time, and sent out about ten replies. You really must be desperate for attention.

        • You’re one of those sick fucks willing to destroy yourself and your family to collaborate with the system! I forget the name of that mental illness, but it is in the text books. Yes chemtrails are real, and you sir seem to be one of the few people left in this world not convinced of that. The whole establishment is free falling, it isn’t working and you are still selling out to it???

          • I never cease to be amazed by the delusional belief of conspiracy nutters that they are a majority, rather than a tiny fringe group whose only contribution to the world is their entertainment value. I’m still waiting, together with the rest of the intelligent part of the population, for the hard, irrefutable evidence for these imaginary ‘chemtrails,’ so far all I get are links to other conspiracy websites and links to documents that don’t prove anything either. The only thing conspiracy nutters have managed to prove, is that they’re paranoid, delusional, out of touch with reality morons.

          • See there you go again, calling names, very professional!! Touched a nerve huh? I believe you are scared, and its okay to be scared. Yes, the very thought of the implications that this “chemtrail conspiracy” theory would mean, is like something out of a horror movie. And i think you are REALLY having a hard time admitting this.

            Yes, this is terrifying to even imagine that not just our own government, but governing types of entities across the globe are involved in. Its more than scary!!!

          • Oddly enough, I don’t hear you about your fellow conspiracy nutters hurling insults whenever someone disagrees with them. Judging by their behaviour, I pretty much have to throw insults back because the only way to get through the thick skulls and the empty space within the skulls of conspiracy nutters is to lower myself to their level.
            But no, I’m not scared of the implications of this ‘chemtrails’ stuff, because there’s after decades of your conspiracy nutters rambling on about it, you still haven’t been able to actually prove it. No reason to be afraid of something that doesn’t even exist.

          • wrong , we laughed at it when others called you names in response to you shilling , cause we’re making fun of how shitty your shilling attempts here are , so please keep it up it’s become the highlights of my mornings of recent to see a retard consistently make a fool of himself in a public forum and get laughed at for it 😀 ……

          • Real quick, i re-read your first post (and by the way, you launched the first insults) you said……”However, as these ‘chemtrails’ only exist in the delusional minds of conspiracy nutters, they cannot be sprayed, therefore the practice of spraying ‘chemtrails’ doesn’t exist” ……what did you mean when you said ‘they cannot be sprayed’?

          • The fact that you can’t understand the phrase ‘they cannot be sprayed’ speaks volumes about your lack of intelligence. Surely you’ll be able to find a six-year-old in your neighbourhood who will be able to explain it to you.

          • i guess this responds intendt looks forward to be that of an “enligthened mind” the one that knows that nothing real can be threathened so nothing unreal exist(i am trying to citate what in course in miracles is being shown about LIFE versus life so to say) Hope this helps… 😉

          • TROLL… paid to insult and discredit facts. “nutter” is such a trite term.

          • Paid to insult and discredit facts? Sorry, nope, you’re once again mistaking me for your alter-ego ‘iamli3.’

          • You’re hilarious. First you spent weeks flooding this page with comments filled with hate and paranoid delusion, whilst cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘iamli3’ and a default avatar. Yesterday morning I noticed you hadn’t replied at all, which suggested you had finally realised I was not going to buy your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories.

            But then you created a new account, again cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘and’ this time, and sent out about ten replies. You really must be desperate for attention.

          • A majority would mean you had a little support , no?
            So , your the minority and proud .
            solid reasoning

          • So funny. First you spent weeks flooding this page with comments filled with hate and paranoid delusion, whilst cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘iamli3’ and a default avatar. Yesterday morning I noticed you hadn’t replied at all, which suggested you had finally realised I was not going to buy your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories.

            But then you created a new account, again cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘and’ this time, and sent out about ten replies. You really must be desperate for attention.

            The absence of the majority who don’t buy your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories is easily explained: all us intelligent folk realise you’re just a paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter who doesn’t have a life, but while most of us just laugh at you and your kind and then ignore you, I stick around for the entertainment. Your desperate and futile attempts to talk yourself out of the corner I keep talking you into, are quite entertaining.

          • You are about as willfully ignorant as they come. This topic has been covered extensively by both mainstream media and alternative , although much earlier by the latter, thereby proving a so called “theory” correct, again.
            Just for fun, how about you go and look up
            -United States Patent and Trademark Office: patent#1892132 Atomizing Attachment For Airplane Engine Exhausts.
            or
            patent#3899144 August 12,1975 – Powder Contrail Generation
            or
            patent#4362271 December 7, 1982 – Procedure for the Artificial Modification of Atmospheric Precipitation as well as Compounds With a Dimethyl Sulfoxide base for use in carrying out said procedure.
            Theres over 200 of the like from 1930s to 2005.

            Or you could check out the Department of Energy Tropospheric Aerosol Program.
            Environmental Sciences Division. ER-74.
            That is, unless of course, those entities are just full of ole conspiracy nutters in your opinion.?
            This sh!t exists. Whether you like it or not. Now do your research, and shut the fLIck up.

          • Hilariously funny, really, being called ‘wilfully ignorant’ by a paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter, a member of a population group that has turned ignorance into a lifestyle… 🙂

            But anyway, chemtrails don’t exist—go do your research.

          • I presented you with the research, fool. Your ignorance is astounding. You are officially beyond help. I give you concrete evidence and you mock it. Go lay down in front of a bus. You reduce the average intelligence quotient of the planet by existing.

          • And here we go again, standard paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter tactic: cowardly hide behind an alias, cowardly hide behind a standard avatar, and insult people you disagree with. And you morons still want to maintain that you’re morally and intellectually superior? Nothing of what you posted proves that these alleged ‘chemtrails’ exist. Which is understandable, because ‘chemtrails’ do indeed only exist in the delusional minds of paranoid conspiracy nutters.
            BTW, I have an IQ of 132, which puts me in the intellectual top 2% of the world. So, really, if you want to improve the average IQ of the world population, you’re the one that should remove himself/herself from the planet. And while you’re at it, go for maximum effect and take all the other paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutters with you.

          • people will often participate in any cult like behavior (such as being hired as a shill) for the most minuscule promise of financial and emotional stability and comfort , it will lead to the downfall of what little social and technological progress our modern societies have accomplished if we can’t can’t put a stop to it by convincing those such as jeroen here of a better way of living life…..

          • Weather modification is one thing. Allegedly spraying ‘chemtrails’ to control or wipe out the population (or whatever your specific version of the ‘chemtrails’ conspiracy claims) is something completely different. Nice try though, trying to move from the latter subject to the former to prevent having to admit this whole ‘chemtrails’ stuff is just paranoid, delusional bullshit that’s not supported by any evidence.

          • you literally can’t have 1 without the other , because the later is the result of the former , but being the paid shill you are you’re going to continue to try to instill that cognitive dissonance in anyone you can for your paycheck and pension….

          • Due to absence of any employers, I’m not getting paid by any employers. The fact that you are getting paid by Alex Jones to spread his fake stories (and under various aliases) doesn’t mean everyone is getting paid. People like me simply rely on science, evidence, and logical thinking.

          • Hilariously funny. First you spent weeks flooding this page with comments filled with hate and paranoid delusion, whilst cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘iamli3’ and a default avatar. Yesterday morning I noticed you hadn’t replied at all, which suggested you had finally realised I was not going to buy your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories.

            But then you created a new account, again cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘and’ this time, and sent out about ten replies. You really must be desperate for attention.

          • Hilariously funny. First you spent weeks flooding this page with comments filled with hate and paranoid delusion, whilst cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘iamli3’ and a default avatar. Yesterday morning I noticed you hadn’t replied at all, which suggested you had finally realised I was not going to buy your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories.

            But then you created a new account, again cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘and’ this time, and sent out about ten replies. You really must be desperate for attention.

            Quite funny too, to see how paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutters like you first demand from intelligent, educated people that they prove your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories wrong, then ignore that proof when presented, and then accuse those same intelligent, educated people of copying your behaviour.

          • logic fail , but narrative success , remember people that’s all the shills have to push on other people at this point , the most crucial thing we can do is to keep calling them out on it when we see it , which isn’t always as obvious and easy to do as it is with this jeroen shill here lol…..

          • Quite funny to see how, in typical right-wing-extremist, paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter fashion, you first tell people to ignore me, and then continue to post replies to my comments. You really are desperate for attention, aren’t you? I mean, you’re even using multiple aliases to post here.
            What happened in your childhood? Did mummy and daddy not give you enough attention? Are you desperate because you’re so ugly you’re condemned to life as a single? That would at least explain why you’re cowardly hiding behind a fake name and a default avatar.

    • One can see plainly something odd happening. Why is it that some days the sky is clear then gets criss crossed with white which then turrns to a haze covering the whole sky. Then the next day, same weather, temperature and other conditions and….nothing. The jets are still flying, why is there no haze?

      • Those planes fly at an altitude of around 30,000 feet. Whether contrails form and remain visible depends on the atmospheric conditions up there, not on the atmospheric conditions on ground level.

        • You just shot yourself in the foot! lol Contrails are not possible under 63,000 feet hahaha not to mention the conditions still have to be perfect and that the engines themselves you say cause contrails is bogus, The science is there. Blood knob!

          • Interesting. Jet engines used to make contrails, but they suddenly stopped because a conspiracy website says jet engines can’t make contrails. How sloppy of all those engineers to forget to tell those engines they can’t make contrails.

          • LMAO. This is made by that Russ Tanner guy who claims to be able to smell 13 different types of “chemtrail” 5 minutes after he sees a contrail in the sky.

            Surely you’re not that gullible?

          • Of course Gary Olds is that gullible; he is, after all, a conspiracy nutter. Gullibility is one of the non-negotiable job requirements for their kind.

        • hahaha your so full of shit im amazed you can move at all, You have nothing ! You bullshit is exposed and you along with it. Your remaining here is mute. for you to continue to lie here proves your a payed shill. Worthless trash.Im done with you blood knob time to go find more of your kind trolling the web. Its been fun for me anyway, Dont let the door hit you on the way out!

          • Yay, more projection behaviour. You and your kind are the ones who get their bullshit exposed over and over again. That’s why your paranoid, delusional kind habitually uses insults and personal attacks to shut up the opposition—because you can’t handle the truth. Well, that, and because you do after all have to do your job as a paid shill for Alex Jones. If you’d suddenly start preferring facts over conspiracy fiction, that generous monthly paycheck would disappear, and then you might suddenly find yourself forced to go find an honest job.

          • hahahaha blood knob your a hoot! You lose, I even added some of your science too….hahahhaha!!!!!!!

          • Jeroen is a TROLL for the political agenda…. paid to post disinformation in an irritating nasty way.

    • Well said Jeroen, one just needs to look at the bank accounts of people like Alex Jones, and those making a living off of the paranoia.

      • I’ve been asking conspiracy nutters that same question for years. I’m still waiting for an answer. BTW, get your keyboard cleaned, your Caps Lock key appears to be stuck.

        • it’s also hilarious to see you continuing to monitor this thread to reply to any new post speaking out about the geoengineering to try to shill the public discourse away from that , and every comment you make is as if you’re pretending the dozens of comments we’ve exchanged in this very thread where i’ve linked you about a dozen hard pieces of evidence that you can’t refute (the coal fly ash paper was a trick as i explained in my other reply) never happened , every single comment you make exposes your agenda more and more it’s great , for me , cause i don’t even have to engage what you’re saying anymore i can just point to all your posts and your shill intent is beyond obvious…..

          • MWUHAHAHAHAHA! You still haven’t proven anything other than the fact that you’re a paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter and a paid shill for Alex Jones. Every single bit of ‘proof’ you’ve linked to has been proven false. And no, you posting the link to the coal fly ash paper wasn’t a trick, it’s one of the many links you conspiracy nutters keep using over and over again; you just don’t want to admit you were wrong.

          • eeenope again my evidence still stands , the only evidence you were able to directly refute was that coal fly ash paper , and again that was a trap to get you to adhere to a proper standard of discussion , to prove your obvious shilling attempts all the more

            but since you’re legitimately to retarded to understand that , i’ll just point out that i already made a comment a couple weeks ago on here to you linking the original post of that paper on the mdpi site which clearly states above the paper that it was redacted , among with many other links to verifiable sources of data , which you never responded to cause you figured that would be the best way to make sure nobody else sees that evidence either….

          • Sure, the link to that specific document was just a trap. I guess that’s why you continue to use it in futile attempts to convince people your pathetic fantasies are truth, despite every said document (and every other bit of ‘proof’ you’ve provided) having been proven false.

          • provide 1 post where i linked to that doc doing so after i linked it to you again and you did the research on it….oh wait you can’t cause you’re a butt hurt little retarded shill 😀 ….

    • Do you walk around looking down looking at the ground? Have a look at the sky next time you are out, those are NOT contrails, they are chemtrails. There are pics of the insides of the planes that are doing the spraying on the internet, there are no seats in there, so it is not passenger jets doing this, it is military converted planes that are doing it. There are videos on YouTube with the pilots who are doing this who are talking about it, it’s all evidence. You might not like Alex Jones, but he is right on this one.

      • you must be new here , this jeroen character is a total shill , just take a look at the comment history here , my interactions with him prove it for all to see….

        • I am new to this one, but have met the likes of him almost everywhere, they make me sick because they are either NOT from this planet, in which case i wish they’d just F off back home, or else they are stupid, and no-one is that stupid? Or maybe they just like being obtuse and are paid to do what it is that they are doing.

          • the later is very much the case here , as einstein said
            there are 2 things that are infinite

            the universe
            and human stupidity

            and im not sure about the universe……

            but im still getting a good laugh out of his shilling attempts so it’s all good 😀 ….

          • I love Einstein quotes. Man if he was around today to see us now!!! Tsk…tsk. So this ‘Shill-be’ fella, you think he is really on their payroll? Lol. Idk. Im new to this whole shill n troll stuff.

          • if einstein were alive today he would probably shoot himself in the head cause he would recognize that would be a better way to die than continuing to see where our current species is headed….ahhahah how morbid that humor….

            but yes jeroen character is display many well trodden shilling behaviors here and i have no doubt in my mind he is legitimately part of the psychological operation to counter intelligence the public awareness of this issue , these tactics are nothing new and their use by power structures of previous societies has been very well documented , i gtg right now though but i could provide all kinds of stuff to look into if you’d like…..

          • The shill / troll stuff is thrown out by paranoid, gullible people who have nothing to back up their argument rather than accusing the likes of the 98% of people who aren’t stupid enough to believe in “chemtrails” shills.

            All it does is indicate defeat and a total lack of evidence.

          • if i link you the irrefutable scientific evidence proving the case right here and now will you stfu and admit to your shilling?….

            well actually i already know the answer to that , you’ll never admit to the shilling , but you will stfu like the other shill did , wont even respond to the comment i left him linking to the evidence , cause that’s what you shill’s real goal is here , to try and keep as many eyes away from the evidence as possible

            so what say you mr another shity shill on this thread?….

          • both we and they know that some of the larger organizations that has stakes in this game have admitted to the geoengineering reality in one form or another , but these paid shills we’re dealing with here are tasked with trying to keep others from being aware of it for as long as they possibly can….

      • Ignorance is bliss, indeed. Conspiracy nutters like Alex Jones make millions by taking advantage of the ignorance of their shills.

    • You don’t LOOK at the skies? IF you don’t then you should… and when you do then YOU can call what you see up there whatever you want…
      Legitimate flights do NOT lay down trails that are dense and thick, the exhaust from normal airliners dissipate like steam in cool air.. But the trails, that these literally hundreds of planes crisscrossing each other’s paths like a checkerboard, spread horizontally and blend together eventually creating a haze that blocks the sun.. and the sky.

      How OLD are you Jeroen?… You look as if you are in your 40’s.. surely you can recall CLEAR skies day after day in the summertime? Then explain to me and the readers.. “WHERE did they go”?

      • 1: You may want to do some research on contrails. How visible they are and how long they last depend on atmospheric conditions. Depending on those, they may disappear almost instantly or last for days and gradually spread out, and everything in between.
        2. When I was a kid, there were already contrails. There were just fewer of them because air traffic has increased significantly since those days. More jet aircraft up there –> more contrails.

        • 1 , you may want to stop ignoring evidence that contradicts your claims , lest more random people come here to this public forum and make fun of you for being a retard shill

          the pilot that speaks first in this panel has more experience and credibility than the other pilot’s blog you link to there
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOEJTzo1Cnk

          so not only does your link to this blog clearly not refute anything , but now i’ve actually provided the testimony which clearly refutes the blog you link to hahaha…..

          2 , everything else i’ve linked that proves that

          “that vaccines cause autism
          https://autismoevaccini.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/vaccin-dc3a9cc3a8s.pdf

          and that there’s a global contamination from the toxic fallout of the ongoing global geoengineering experiments
          http://www.currentscience.ac.in/Volumes/108/12/2173.pdf
          http://www.arizonaskywatch.com/charts/our%20charts/index.html
          http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987704000222
          http://hubpages.com/politics/Multiple-Official-Sources-Confirm-Chemtrails-Geoengineering-Are-Real-Research-Is-Ongoing

          and an instance of the main method of this geoengineering – stratospheric aerosol injection from jet tankers
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFCS_OdDsJw

          3 i already instantly knew when i saw this english guy’s bunch of comments that you would claim he and i are the same person without evidence , and in contrary to the part where the only thing that guy is saying to you is that you’re a troll/shill , which is something i’ve already done in every one of my comments on all our reply chains , so to make more replies to those comments that already had been replied to like that is unnecessary redundancy which i am against so lol no that isn’t something i would do , you “paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter” shill you…..

          now how bout admitting to the validity of the evidence already yeh?…..

          • ‘unnecessary redundancy which i am against’ <– Which is why you keep repeating the same insults and keep posting the same links to the same fake 'evidence' over and over again, and keep creating new aliases to make it seem as if you're not the only here who is a paranoid, delusional conspiracy idiot. Must have pissed you off bigtime that I saw right through that. Thanks for showing the world you're really desperate for attention, saves me the work of doing it for you.

            And hey, thanks for posting the same links over and over again, despite all that 'evidence' having been proven false already. It does an excellent job of confirming that paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutters like you have this insane belief that if you repeat conspiracy fiction often enough, it will somehow magically become truth. It also does an excellent job of showing the rest of the world that you're a paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter whose sole contribution to the world is his entertainment value.

            Now, how about you finally admit your 'evidence' doesn't prove anything other than the fact that you're a paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter and a paid shill/troll for Alex Jones? It's obvious that you suffer from severe mental illnesses, and you definitely need treatment for that, but the first step to treatment and possible cure is to accept that you suffer from severe mental illnesses.

          • siiiiigh can you shills try and be at least a little slightly less predictable when you make your responses?

            like again i already knew as i was typing out my previous comment the things you were going to take from it and respond with , and i had made my response to that before posting it , so effectively i was ahead of you on today’s reply which took away some of the fun of it being my morning highlight again :/ ….

            on a plus side though , geowatch has just introduced the us legal team http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/geoengineeringwatch-org-introduces-the-us-anti-geoengineering-legal-team/?inf_contact_key=b156058532700d848228b77963ed378bf00ed21eb9fc76f92825cd44b0be157c

            sweet so their lawsuit mustn’t be far behind , can you see the writing on the wall yet mr shill? we’re coming for you…..

            ….oh right! that’s how you force someone to stop hiding behind language , you have to demand they qualify their statements , thus revealing they were lying the whole time and have no idea what they were even talking about….

            well by all means go ahead and explain exactly how “all that ‘evidence’ having been proven false already”

            you can’t , cause you never did , but i wanna see you admit it c’mon make my day again c: …..

            ……hey wait a second! i had new evidence posted in my previous comments yesterday! LOL HOW CAN YOU CLAIM YOU PROVED FALSE NEW EVIDENCE THAT WAS NEVER EVEN LOOKED AT?! FUCKING ROFL MAN YOU’RE TOO GOOD XD …..

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOEJTzo1Cnk

            that’s a new piece of evidence i linked to , can’t wait to hear you ignore it again while claiming to have already debunked it lol!….

            and the rest again , oh oh yeah about what i already knew about your response , yeah here’s the difference since you couldn’t tell , these repeat linkings are necessary as they satisfy the dual fold purpose of giving people credible data on this matter while also dispelling disinfo agents like yourself…..

            “that vaccines cause autism
            https://autismoevaccini.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/vaccin-dc3a9cc3a8s.pdf

            and that there’s a global contamination from the toxic fallout of the ongoing global geoengineering experiments
            http://www.currentscience.ac.in/Volumes/108/12/2173.pdf
            http://www.arizonaskywatch.com/charts/our%20charts/index.html
            http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987704000222
            http://hubpages.com/politics/Multiple-Official-Sources-Confirm-Chemtrails-Geoengineering-Are-Real-Research-Is-Ongoing

            and an instance of the main method of this geoengineering – stratospheric aerosol injection from jet tankers
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFCS_OdDsJw

          • Standard Conspiracy Nutter Method:

            Step 1: Paranoid, delusional, science-denying conspiracy nutter posts hilariously funny and totally absurd conspiracy theory
            Step 2: Intelligent, science-oriented people ask for evidence that supports the theory
            Step 3: Paranoid, delusional, science-denying conspiracy nutter posts links to pages, videos and documents with alleged ‘proof’
            Step 3: Paranoid, delusional, science-denying conspiracy nutter watches in horror as ‘proof’ gets debunked by intelligent, science-oriented people
            Step 4: Paranoid, delusional, science-denying conspiracy nutter ignores debunking of ‘proof,’ starts insulting opponents
            Step 5: Paranoid, delusional, science-denying conspiracy nutter returns to step 2. Repeat cycle ad infinitum, or at least until intelligent, science-denying people decide the paranoid, delusional, science-denying conspiracy nutter is no longer entertaining but has become boring with his endless repeats of the same bullshit, and leave because unlike the paranoid, delusional, science-denying conspiracy nutter, they actually have a life.

            Quite funny therefore, being told by paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter that I’m ‘predictable in your responses.’

          • bloody hell shills are worse than feminism aren’t you? how many times can you use the same meaningless buzz words in a single post XD ?….

            also did you miss the part where i pointed out that you’ve ignored new evidence several times now? honestly who do you think you’re fooling when you make a claim that it ‘got debunked by intelligent, science-oriented people’ when everyone can see you haven’t even acknowledged the new evidence?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOEJTzo1Cnk

            let alone actually disproved any of the other hard evidence i’ve been linking to

            “that vaccines cause autism
            https://autismoevaccini.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/vaccin-dc3a9cc3a8s.pdf

            and that there’s a global contamination from the toxic fallout of the ongoing global geoengineering experiments
            http://www.currentscience.ac.in/Volumes/108/12/2173.pdf
            http://www.arizonaskywatch.com/charts/our%20charts/index.html
            http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987704000222
            http://hubpages.com/politics/Multiple-Official-Sources-Confirm-Chemtrails-Geoengineering-Are-Real-Research-Is-Ongoing

            and an instance of the main method of this geoengineering – stratospheric aerosol injection from jet tankers
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFCS_OdDsJw

            also , this helpful little graph explains what a refutation actually is , since you continue to claim that is what you’ve done when you clearly haven’t , perhaps you don’t actually know how this works….
            http://english102-tamuc-barnes.wikispaces.com/file/view/Argument_Pyramid.jpg/112461215/Argument_Pyramid.jpg

            so far i’ve seen you refute only 1 piece of evidence which was a paper i linked to that was redacted that i used to get you to prove that you are in fact physically capable of making a refutation to an argument

            now whether that was intentional or by accident remains to be seen , but what is obvious is that the rest of the time you’ve been posting nothing but ad-homs to all this evidence i am perpetually presenting so long as they remain proof to my points that you have ignored…..

          • oh good , finally admitting to the validity of the evidence then since “Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnn…..” isn’t a rebuttal?…..

          • Another fine case of a paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter seeing things that aren’t there. But then, seeing things that aren’t there is of course what conspiracy nuttery is all about.
            You haven’t posted any evidence, so there’s no validity of evidence to admit to. Your obsessive and compulsive repetitiveness is just getting boring.
            And so: Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnn…..

          • “You haven’t posted any evidence,”
            O___________O ……………………………………….

            holy ssssshit i must be fucking crazy if that’s the case……
            hold on let me check…..

            links to scientific reports , industry and government documents , discussion panels of many different experts scientists political figures ect giving testimony about the evidences provided?….

            yup that’s all still there , HO K PHEW for a moment there i thought i might have made a huge mistake , but i haven’t , you’re still just a lying shill that consistently brings a smile to my face c: , cause you just can’t make this shit up if you’re a normal rational thinking person , only a paid shill could come up with things like that to say XD ………

          • More name calling, more denial of the fact that your ‘evidence’ has already been proven false, here and elsewhere on the Internet. Thanks for proving that you are a paid shill for Alex Jones, because no sane, intelligent person could make up that shit you keep posting here.
            BTW, you forgot to include your usual copy-and-paste links to your fake ‘evidence.’ Better not let Alex Jones find out about that, or he might cut your pay for that.

          • >your ‘evidence’ has already been proven false, here

            no , it hasn’t , this is what you have to do to prove something false
            http://english102-tamuc-barnes.wikispaces.com/file/view/Argument_Pyramid.jpg/112461215/Argument_Pyramid.jpg
            you have not done that…..cause you’re a shill…..jeez it’s like i need to keep reminding myself that you’re a shill otherwise i might forget and start taking you seriously and then start having a mental melt down at how retarded everything you say logically is lel…..

          • hmmmmmmm hey mr shill , i wonder , if you know about this new report that came out a week ago , in which it states

            “Essentially mankind has again caused a massive build up of fossil
            fuel carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and Mother Earth has already
            started to respond with the predicted massive Arctic methane blow out
            (since 2010) which will lead to an Earth engulfing firestorm in 5 to 8
            years. ”

            http://arctic-news.blogspot.ca/2016/05/wildfire-danger-increasing.html

            what say you about that?….

          • ….oh , my reply isn’t here? i was sure i posted it though , did it get erased? or am i just not able to see it on this page? all that time waiting for your reply , oh well , i’ll just try again

            mmmmmm hey mr shill , i wonder if you know about this recent report and what you think about it……..

            “Essentially mankind has again caused a massive build up of fossil
            fuel carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and Mother Earth has already
            started to respond with the predicted massive Arctic methane blow out
            (since 2010) which will lead to an Earth engulfing firestorm in 5 to 8
            years.”

            http://arctic-news.blogspot.ca/2016/05/wildfire-danger-increasing.html

          • Note 1: Not relevant to your paranoid, delusional ‘chemtrails’ conspiracy.
            Note 2. See Note 1.

            Interestingly, though, a bit of research has shown that both the claim about that firestorm and it’s author Malcolm Light suffer from major credibility issues.

          • i know it’s not relevant to the previous discussion (even though it factually is) cause im changing the topic , i know you were chosen for the shill job cause you’re slow , but do try to keep up :l ….

            im not interested what you or others personally think about the people involved with writing and publishing those reports , i want to know what you think about the report itself…..

      • LOL. First you spent weeks flooding this page with comments filled with hate and paranoid delusion, whilst cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘iamli3’ and a default avatar. Yesterday morning I noticed you hadn’t replied at all, which suggested you had finally realised I was not going to buy your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories.
        But then you created a new account, again cowardly hiding behind the alias ‘and’ this time, and sent out about ten replies. You really must be desperate for attention.

        • Types of paranoia and delusion yet mirrors onto me the identity of his nemesis.
          disregarding the weeks because of psychosis, and snort of laughter as the mirrors appear for the attention.
          Lulz to lame shill , youll catch no flies with that tripe .

          • i don’t know what’s more hilarious to me

            the part where he made all those replies 1 hour before seeing a follow up comment by me explaining how i was waiting for response from him for a comment i had made a few days ago that appeared to have gone missing (but i see now that it is in the reply chain so idk why it wasn’t showing for us before)

            or the part where he thinks it takes a few days to create a new account to post comments with on here XD

            you’ve already seen i’ve been all over the place with this shill in this thread , but at this point im beginning to wonder if this is part of his act or if he is just legitimately psychotic like you say

            like maybe to the point where he even believes everything he’s saying & shilling for himself , and nothing we can say or do here will even get him to entertain the notion that what he’s saying might not be entirely correct…..

            like you saw i repeat linked him hard evidence proving the case , he came up with an excuse to not like the evidence or the people who published it , and that’s it , has yet to refute or acknowledge the various pieces of evidence , a total ideologue

            like it wouldn’t even matter to him if the united states gov just issues a press release saying ‘btw we’re totally engineering the climate all over the world and have been for decades’ , he would throw the same labels on it and pretend that he isn’t some total fucking retard….

            and i know this for a fact cause i have linked him us sennet documents discussing their geoengineering operations and that’s exactly what he did!……

      • Nope, just intelligent and educated. Which, admittedly, are traits which are completely alien to conspiracy nutters.

  10. We all know how this is going to end, right? For a court to order a halt to the spraying of ‘chemtrails,’ the court will need to see evidence that it’s actually happening. However, as these ‘chemtrails’ only exist in the delusional minds of conspiracy nutters, they cannot be sprayed, therefore the practice of spraying ‘chemtrails’ doesn’t exist, therefore the court can’t put an end to it, leaving the court with no other option than to dismiss the case. After that, the conspiracy nutters will again whine about all this being ‘a cover-up’ by the government and the court, whose judges are of course all on the payroll of the CIA/NSA/Mossad/Jews/Bankers/Illuminati/Reptilians/Whoever.

    • bro we all know you’re being a shill here , but it’s about time the shills stop this shit and realize your life has already been made forfeit by these experiments , go ahead and get a blood test from a reputable firm for nano sized particles and post us the results of the test (we already have hundreds of state certified lab tests from around the globe proving a global off the charts level of toxic heavy metal contamination , but you don’t care about that , but maybe you’ll care about your own blood) , i mc.fucken dare you…..

    • Am I a shill? Yes, I’m a shill—for science, logic, and reason. If you want me to believe this ‘chemtrails’ bullshit is true, then you’ll have to provide solid, irrefutable evidence for it. Claims by paranoid, out-of-touch-with-reality conspiracy nutters don’t qualify as evidence, claims from alleged ‘experts’ who don’t back their claims with solid evidence don’t qualify either.
      Show me the documents proving that the government has some Big Secret Plan to spray us all with chemicals to control us. Show me the contracts between the government and the producers of those chemicals that prove the government regularly places huge orders for those chemicals. Show me the evidence that the trucks leaving those chemical plants contain ‘chemtrails’ to be delivered to the government. Show me the written orders for pilots to spray chemicals from high altitude, and include plane registration numbers and flight plans.
      Rather than suggesting I get my blood tested, you should prove that those ‘chemtrails’ are real. And while you’re at it, post proof for those ‘hundreds of state certified lab tests from around the globe.’

    • Once again, the only ‘proof’ comes in the form of links to other conspiracy nutter websites. Shouldn’t you add links to Alex Jones’ YouTube channel as well?

    • congratulations on calling this
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      http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/

      Abstract

      The
      widespread, intentional and increasingly frequent chemical emplacement
      in the troposphere has gone unidentified and unremarked in the
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      fly ash in published laboratory experiments, and (2) Comparison of 14
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      identical means (T-test) and identical variances (F-test); and (2) the
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      an idiotic paranoid conspiracy , that takes some serious stupid….

      i
      purposefully linked to geowatch again so you would take the bait of
      trying to discredit all the links i provided by trying to claim it isn’t
      a credible source (which it is anyways)

      so yeah in by doing so
      you’ve also claimed that this highly reputable scientific journal
      publication site , isn’t , it’s not possible to even pretend to come
      back with credibility after making a statement like that , you’re over
      it’s done , you’ll never convince anyone of your pay master’s lies , you
      should just stop…..

      but you wont cause shills always have the
      last comment , it’s what is visible at the end of a conversation so
      that’s where you’ll get the most views for what you’re getting paid to
      lie about…..

      also it would help to make it a slight challenge to
      identify shills if you weren’t all so equally stupid and predictable in
      conversation cues……but why do i bother telling you that , you don’t
      think , so it’s not like you could do anything with that information
      anyways , and then the game gets boring for me….

    • Eh, Alex Jones was the first to blow the whistle on a host of things and now he is proving to be correct on most of them such as 9/11 False Flag. If the gov’t will kill 3000, we need to ask ourselves what won’t they do to gain their evil agenda, NWO, Agenda 21. Chemtrails are not the only form of eugenics being used: vaccines which cause autism, GMO’s in the food supply, fluoride, lead, radiation in the water supply, Big Pharma, always claiming the cure is coming but pushing band aids which cause people to become sicker. So far as who will do The Elite’s dirty work? Robots. They don’t need people anymore. We are not only witnessing a takeover but it is a technocracy takeover. I could go on. I don’t have proof of Chemtrails and the harmful effects but I don’t trust the government as they work in secrecy all the while spying on us.

    • Alex Jones isn’t a whistleblower, he’s one of the world’s biggest conspiracy nutters. None of his claims have ever been proven, the only thing Jones has proven is that he’s paranoid, delusional, and completely out of touch with reality.
      So, tell me, how much does Alex Jones pay you to be his shill and repeat all those not-backed-by-any-evidence claims?

    • How dare you call me such, Jeroen. I don’t get paid one single dime from Alex Jones or anyone. The only satisfaction I get is in getting out the truth in hopes of waking a few people up to the tyranny and treason. We are losing America. I cannot put it anymore blunter. And, to note: Many of Joneses claims from 20 years ago are coming to fruition so you might want to take heed and hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

    • Why shouldn’t I call you a paid shill for Alex Jones? I get called a paid shill for BigPharma (and BigCorp, and the government, and every other organisation you hate) all the time by your kind for pointing out the flaws and the science denial in your claims, and asking questions you don’t want to answer because the answer wouldn’t match your paranoid, delusional fantasies.

      You’re not ‘getting the truth’ out. Truth is based on facts and evidence; claims that have been debunked countless times already don’t become ‘truth’ if you just repeat them often enough. For example, you claim that vaccines cause autism, yet numerous scientific studies and meta studies, together involving over 10 million (!) children, have failed to find even a single bit of evidence for it. Yet despite all this scientific research, your kind keeps insisting that vaccines cause autism, while at the same time failing to provide the evidence for it.

    • I remember very clearly what contrails looked like when I was a kid. Never did they span the horizon, they dissipated almost instantly. When did the laws of physics change to support your arguements?

    • And the water isn’t toxic, the food supply is cancerous. Heroin epidemic flown in from Afghanistan. It’s population reduction, part of the future. It’s always conspiracy nuts if your not parroting CNN . Keep your eyes closed tight sir, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.

    • The drug trade has nothing to do with some ‘secret agenda’ or ‘New World Order’ or anything similar. The drug trade is at its core just a matter of business and economics. You may want to look up information about ‘the law of supply and demand.’

    • if that’s the case about the ‘science of vaccines’ , then how did that itallian court rule that vaccines caused autism? could it be…..that you’re a lying shill? i think so…..

      also wrong , no one has ever called you a shill for “pointing out the flaws and the science denial in your claims,” , you’re exposed for being a shill when you deny the reality of the scientific facts being presented , such as the lab tests i linked you , how’s refuting that going btw?…..

    • You mean that decision by some provincial court that based its entire decision on Andrew Wakefield’s fraudulent ‘research’? You are aware that said court was later overruled by a higher court because there was and is in fact not a shred of scientific evidence linking autism to vaccines? Or is that a piece of information you prefer to ignore because it doesn’t match your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theory?

      http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/italian-mmr-autism-decision-overturned/

    • was not aware of the later overruling , tried to look up info , the only english site talking about this i could readily find is the blog you linked , so im unable to look into the court details themselves….

      so going by what the other blogs and news sites are saying about the case , it appears that this court ruling was based on an expert witness who gave testimony based off of andrew’s report , whatever it may be (i was unable to find it despite all the searching and link jumping im doing) , in where some of it’s points like those us court cases , were based off of testimony rather than scientific evidence , due diligence is always done when you can character assassinate the opposition eh?…..

      but as i was researching , i came across this nifty little document….

      =ok first im gonna try posting this without the link here=
      ok link posting is successful , the auto censoring engine is much more lenient on this site…..
      https://autismoevaccini.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/vaccin-dc3a9cc3a8s.pdf

      oh and would you look at that , autism is listed several times as conditions people got from being injected with toxic poisons and viruses , who would have figured? apparently not he scientists harming those poor defenseless children…..

      the evidence on matters like these aren’t hard to find , for anyone who wants to look , but again to be clear for anyone else reading these shills im responding to here aren’t interested in looking up evidence , only in trying to distract other people from it , cause that’s what they’re being paid to do….

      so come on then mr lying shill , can you refute a report paper signed by dr. felix allerando md , a head at glaxosmithcline , that vaccines cause autism?

      of the lab tests i linked that prove the global toxic fallout from the ongoing global geoengineeing experiments? still waiting on that one but you keep ignoring it……and i think we all know why that is…….

    • Standard tactic: keep throwing documents that don’t prove your claims at people who don’t buy your paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories, in the hope that they’ll give up because they have more important things to do.
      Unfortunately for you, that 1000+ page document doesn’t say vaccines cause autism. In fact, dozens of studies, involving over 10 million children in total, have not found any evidence for any link between vaccines and autism.
      You may want to learn the difference between causation and correlation. You may also want to actually read that document yourself and start getting your information from reliable sources, rather than blindly copying and pasting links from conspiracy websites, and/or links that your employer Alex Jones tells you to post.
      And while you’re at it, you may also want to learn what autism really is…

    • I looked at that page about lab tests. Observation #1: It’s posted on a conspiracy nutter website. Observation #2 is a quote from that page: ‘A second series of lab tests has now confirmed high levels of barium and aluminum in snow Dickie thinks fell through chemtrails. So far, he says, there is no other explanation for the high-levels of each chemical compound in city soils.’ In other words, the guy admits he doesn’t KNOW the cause, he only has a theory.

    • standard tactic: ignoring reality when it doesn’t suit your narrative

      the documents clearly state subjects (the children) got autism when they were vaccinated (injected with toxic poisons and viruses)

      not once have i even mentioned or sources alex johns for anything , your straw grasping is rather sad , it’s not even a third party document , it’s signed by your employer’s power structure ally gsk

      i have been diagnosed with autism btw….

    • Committee of 300; owners of the East India Trading Company who spread opium addiction across Asia and Europe.

    • It can’t say children got autism from vaccination, because science has already proven over and over again that there’s no link between the two. But feel free to tell me on which page it says otherwise—although I doubt you can, because you’re just copying and pasting claims from this and/or other conspiracy nutter websites.

    • Actually, I divorced her. Once again, the conspiracy nutters can’t get their facts straight.

      So, tell me, why are you hiding behind anonimity? Afraid people will recognise you as the guy who lives down the street in that house with the ‘A Registered Sex Offender Lives Here’ sign in the front yard? Hiding your monthly pay by Alex Jones from the IRS?

    • no , you can’t say children got autism from vaccinations because you’re paid to convince others that that’s not the case , where as in reality the causal mechanisms have been proven extensively for anyone who wants to look up the information , such as myself , who also found this document catching the evil doers red handed for this

      page 24 , 626 , 632 , 756 , and 992 , it’s called ctrl + F btw…..
      also , in between these over a thousand pages of lists , are all the other horrible conditions these autism sticks have been giving the current forced vaccine raised generation…..

      but the public perception on this matter is rather old , everyone already knows most of this , no sense retreading it here when we’re supposed to be talking about geoengineering….

      but hey whatever your job description says right?

      no matter for me since every single post you make is actually helping people wake up more , not less , by seeing how obvious of a shill you are…..

    • And don’t tell us it’s not possible for one of you nutters to fly a plane, a balloon, etc, manned or unmanned through one and gather a sample to prove their BS. Wonder why that hasn’t happened? They would have their undeniable proof, which is why you won’t see it done. F’ing idiots. See how easy it is to shoot down your lunacy?

    • Heres a link to a web site that does weather modification other wise known as cloud seating. As for your obtuse opinions about “nutters”, just shove that foot of yours a little futher in your mouth. And then after you check out the web site I sent you, you can take your foot out of your mouth and pull your head out of the sand. CIA/ mossad ect? Ha ha

    • I realise this will be difficult to understand for someone like you who is not hindered by any intelligence, but the fact that you are a paid shill for Alex Jones doesn’t mean everyone is a paid shill. I can tell you again that I’m not getting paid by anyone to shoot holes in your pathetic, paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutters, but you’re so paranoid and delusional that you won’t believe it anyway. After all, as a paid shill for Alex Jones, you’re getting paid to only believe what that idiot tells you.

    • I’m still waiting for the conspiracy nutters to actually do that, but apparently they’re too lazy for that, and prefer to just keep posting the same bullshit over and over again. But hey, they’re getting paid by Alex Jones to do that, if they stop it would mean the end of that generous monthly paycheck.

    • So, tell me, exactly how much does Alex Jones pay you every month to spread his paranoid, delusional conspiracy fantasies and insult people who, unlike you and your kind, are smart enough to see through that bullshit and point out all the flaws in those paranoid fantasies?

    • One can see plainly something odd happening. Why is it that some days the sky is clear then gets criss crossed with white which then turrns to a haze covering the whole sky. Then the next day, same weather, temperature and other conditions and….nothing. The jets are still flying, why is there no haze?

    • Those planes fly at an altitude of around 30,000 feet. Whether contrails form and remain visible depends on the atmospheric conditions up there, not on the atmospheric conditions on ground level.

    • Carry on, people, nothing to see here, just a cowardly-hiding-behind-anonimity, paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter who hides his identity because he doesn’t want you to find out he’s been convicted for multiple counts of child rape—including his own kids.

    • LOL. Even understanding the most simple questions is obviously too difficult for you. I asked you to tell me on which page it says that vaccines cause autism, I didn’t ask for a list of pages on which the word ‘autism’ occurs. The mere mentioning of the word ‘autism’ doesn’t even come close to being ‘proof’ (which doesn’t exist anyway, as science has already determined there’s no link between vaccines and autism).

    • “I realise this will be difficult to understand for someone like you who is not hindered by any intelligence,”…….
      i th…ink you’re the one that has a hindered intelligence here , just what?….

      anyways i could easily flag your comment there since it’s nothing but a pile a personal attacks , trying again with the character assassination? can’t you shills come up with anything new or interesting?…..

      er but anyways , im not going to flag it cause again your comments are doing more for the cause of waking people up than trying to keep them deceived

      every response you make where you don’t refute the evidence i presented only compounds on that fact , so by all means keep shilling away….

    • oh uh you made 2 separate replies to my previous comment there? ok then…

      oh no i understood your question perfectly , my mistake was thinking you were able to read , clearly that is not the case , for if you read the introduction on the document you would see it is a report listing all the adverse effects of the vaccines that they did safety tests for , and among the thousands upon thousands of other horrible effects , autism is one of them listed on those page numbers i gave…..

      ….im reluctant for wanting to even tell your shilling self to bugger off now , im started to get worried about how mentally retarded you may actually be , how many vaccines have you yourself suffered through?….

    • Well said Jeroen, one just needs to look at the bank accounts of people like Alex Jones, and those making a living off of the paranoia.

    • Jeroen, my dad used to say when you argue with a nut, its hard to tell the sane person from the peanut gallery.

    • I beg to disagree, Alex figured out that he could make a lot of money selling this to the gullible, his bank account now has over 7 figures in it, he was just a flat broke radio commentator when he started.

    • You just shot yourself in the foot! lol Contrails are not possible under 63,000 feet hahaha not to mention the conditions still have to be perfect and that the engines themselves you say cause contrails is bogus, The science is there. Blood knob!

    • Had your arse handed to ya and carnt take it, Well boo hoo .You obviously never got the beating you deserved, Must be because your father liked to put his hands in your pants and share you around with his mates,daddies little boy, Carnt call it rape in your case because you like it!

    • Well, he needs the money. Paying dozens, if not hundreds, of his shills to help spread his paranoid, delusional conspiracy theories must really add up over time.

    • Interesting. Jet engines used to make contrails, but they suddenly stopped because a conspiracy website says jet engines can’t make contrails. How sloppy of all those engineers to forget to tell those engines they can’t make contrails.
      BTW, contrails are formed at altitudes between roughly 25,000 and 30,000 feet. At 63,000 feet, there’s not nearly enough oxygen left for the engines to function. Commercial jet aircraft can’t even reach that altitude, some military aircraft can reach 50k if they really try, but that’s about it. You may want to start getting your information from reliable sources, rather than from science-denying conspiracy websites.

    • I suspect a massive case of projection here. I take it you now defend your habit of raping children by claiming you’re a victim yourself? Must have really sucked that the court didn’t agree with you and sent you off to prison anyway, huh? Let me guess, you now actually need to be a paid shill for Alex Jones because you need to money to pay compensation to your victims? Guess getting a real job was too difficult for you.

    • hahaha your so full of shit im amazed you can move at all, You have nothing ! You bullshit is exposed and you along with it. Your remaining here is mute. for you to continue to lie here proves your a payed shill. Worthless trash.Im done with you blood knob time to go find more of your kind trolling the web. Its been fun for me anyway, Dont let the door hit you on the way out!

    • Yay, more projection behaviour. You and your kind are the ones who get their bullshit exposed over and over again. That’s why your paranoid, delusional kind habitually uses insults and personal attacks to shut up the opposition—because you can’t handle the truth. Well, that, and because you do after all have to do your job as a paid shill for Alex Jones. If you’d suddenly start preferring facts over conspiracy fiction, that generous monthly paycheck would disappear, and then you might suddenly find yourself forced to go find an honest job.

    • hahahaha blood knob your a hoot! You lose, I even added some of your science too….hahahhaha!!!!!!!

    • is that made by the same person? is that his personal blog or something? i know that’s something shills can sometimes have…..

    • i guarantee you it’s A LOT smaller than the bank accounts of ratheon and gsk and the like :l ….

    • business and monetary economics are the problem here , there is no infinite growth on a finite planet , and sustainable growth is an oxymoron…..

    • actually that’s not even necessary , as i figured out yesterday

      we’re not the only ones claiming something positive here , jeroen is as well , but he is also lacking the same kind of evidence to prove his shilling position as he is demanding of us

      so in actuality we don’t have to prove a thing to his claim that the aerosol trails being sprayed by the jet tankers are contrails until he actually gets that ridiculous evidence for himself to prove that it is….

      in the mean time we can keep sharing all the other evidence we have on this geoengineering matter……

    • actually that’s not even necessary , as i figured out yesterday

      we’re not the only ones claiming something positive here , you are as well ,
      but you are also lacking the same kind of evidence to prove you shilling
      position as you are demanding of us

      so in actuality we don’t have to prove a thing to your shill claim that the aerosol trails being sprayed by the jet tankers are contrails until you actually gets that ridiculous evidence for yourself to prove that it is….

      in the mean time we can keep sharing all the other evidence we have on this geoengineering matter……

    • You’re one of those sick fucks willing to destroy yourself and your family to collaborate with the system! I forget the name of that mental illness, but it is in the text books. Yes chemtrails are real, and you sir seem to be one of the few people left in this world not convinced of that. The whole establishment is free falling, it isn’t working and you are still selling out to it???

    • Those white lines in the sky are contrails. If you want to claim they’re ‘chemtrails’ and that the government (or whoever) is spraying chemicals, it’s up to you to prove it. The fact that decades after this ‘chemtrails’ nonsense started, you still haven’t proven any of it, speaks volumes. So far, every single bit of ‘evidence’ you’ve come up (and repeated ad infinitum) has been debunked.
      Must be a pretty good paycheck from Alex Jones you get every month, if you keep repeating the same bullshit even when you get proven wrong over and over again.

    • I never cease to be amazed by the delusional belief of conspiracy nutters that they are a majority, rather than a tiny fringe group whose only contribution to the world is their entertainment value. I’m still waiting, together with the rest of the intelligent part of the population, for the hard, irrefutable evidence for these imaginary ‘chemtrails,’ so far all I get are links to other conspiracy websites and links to documents that don’t prove anything either. The only thing conspiracy nutters have managed to prove, is that they’re paranoid, delusional, out of touch with reality morons.

    • “Those white lines in the sky are contrails.”

      prove it
      you have yet to prove this , because you can’t , i’ve already proven that they’re intentionally dispersed aerosol trails from the contamination of the toxic fallout from them in different ways , and by proven i mean with hard evidence not bad arguments which is all you have presented , it will be funny to see you try though…..

      >every single bit of ‘evidence’ you’ve come up (and repeated ad infinitum) has been debunked.

      LORLFORLFORLMROROLOLLULUZLZ , BY YOU JUST DECLARING THAT TO BE THE CASE FOR NO REASON RIGHT?! fÜck me that’s funny…..

    • people will often participate in any cult like behavior (such as being hired as a shill) for the most minuscule promise of financial and emotional stability and comfort , it will lead to the downfall of what little social and technological progress our modern societies have accomplished if we can’t can’t put a stop to it by convincing those such as jeroen here of a better way of living life…..

    • OUCH!!! I hope he has insurance because thoes third degree burns are going to hurt for a while!!

    • Gawd, you really are too stupid to understanding anything other than the instructions from your employer Alex Jones, aren’t you? If you want to accuse the government of shady practices, it’s up to you to prove it (which you so far have failed to do), not for other to prove you wrong.
      Let me apply your standard conspiracy nutter tactic to something that will undoubtedly hit close to home for you, so that perhaps you will come to see the light. You are a rapist, a child molester, and a child murderer. Prove me wrong.

    • I’ve been asking conspiracy nutters that same question for years. I’m still waiting for an answer. BTW, get your keyboard cleaned, your Caps Lock key appears to be stuck.

    • it’s also hilarious to see you continuing to monitor this thread to reply to any new post speaking out about the geoengineering to try to shill the public discourse away from that , and every comment you make is as if you’re pretending the dozens of comments we’ve exchanged in this very thread where i’ve linked you about a dozen hard pieces of evidence that you can’t refute (the coal fly ash paper was a trick as i explained in my other reply) never happened , every single comment you make exposes your agenda more and more it’s great , for me , cause i don’t even have to engage what you’re saying anymore i can just point to all your posts and your shill intent is beyond obvious…..

    • Have you heard of this organisation called. Solar Radiation Management Governance Initiative? Here is their link.
      http://www.srmgi.org/

      2010 The Royal Society hosts Geoengineering
      – Taking control of our planet’s climate at the Royal Society.

      Here they speak of the urgent need to manipulate the climate on a global scale, and talks of how to go about governing these “proposed projects”…..anyway, they have a short video explaining who they are and gives a description of the various geoengineering sceems “proposed” and the concern of how to introduce it to the public….here is the video link

    • So your saying that there havent been any such type of “samples” gathered as to support this accusation? That is where you are woefully ignorant. Research much?

    • Oh, do show me where it’s been done. Something so easy to prove unequivocally and yet it remains in the realm of nutjobs.

    • See there you go again, calling names, very professional!! Touched a nerve huh? I believe you are scared, and its okay to be scared. Yes, the very thought of the implications that this “chemtrail conspiracy” theory would mean, is like something out of a horror movie. And i think you are REALLY having a hard time admitting this.

      Yes, this is terrifying to even imagine that not just our own government, but governing types of entities across the globe are involved in. Its more than scary!!!

    • My case has already been proven—by that pesky little thing called SCIENCE. So, when’s that proof coming that you’re not a rapist, a child molester, and a child murderer? Because, you know, you seem rather in favour of the ‘guilty until proven innocent’ approach.

    • Weather modification is one thing. Allegedly spraying ‘chemtrails’ to control or wipe out the population (or whatever your specific version of the ‘chemtrails’ conspiracy claims) is something completely different. Nice try though, trying to move from the latter subject to the former to prevent having to admit this whole ‘chemtrails’ stuff is just paranoid, delusional bullshit that’s not supported by any evidence.

    • Oddly enough, I don’t hear you about your fellow conspiracy nutters hurling insults whenever someone disagrees with them. Judging by their behaviour, I pretty much have to throw insults back because the only way to get through the thick skulls and the empty space within the skulls of conspiracy nutters is to lower myself to their level.
      But no, I’m not scared of the implications of this ‘chemtrails’ stuff, because there’s after decades of your conspiracy nutters rambling on about it, you still haven’t been able to actually prove it. No reason to be afraid of something that doesn’t even exist.

    • MWUHAHAHAHAHA! You still haven’t proven anything other than the fact that you’re a paranoid, delusional conspiracy nutter and a paid shill for Alex Jones. Every single bit of ‘proof’ you’ve linked to has been proven false. And no, you posting the link to the coal fly ash paper wasn’t a trick, it’s one of the many links you conspiracy nutters keep using over and over again; you just don’t want to admit you were wrong.

    • EEEEnope the site you linked for your ‘scientific proof’ was a shity blog by some person who’s not even a scientist , and you’re a shity shill , and im still laughing my ass off at your persistent display of shilling XD ….

    • eeenope again my evidence still stands , the only evidence you were able to directly refute was that coal fly ash paper , and again that was a trap to get you to adhere to a proper standard of discussion , to prove your obvious shilling attempts all the more

      but since you’re legitimately to retarded to understand that , i’ll just point out that i already made a comment a couple weeks ago on here to you linking the original post of that paper on the mdpi site which clearly states above the paper that it was redacted , among with many other links to verifiable sources of data , which you never responded to cause you figured that would be the best way to make sure nobody else sees that evidence either….

    • you literally can’t have 1 without the other , because the later is the result of the former , but being the paid shill you are you’re going to continue to try to instill that cognitive dissonance in anyone you can for your paycheck and pension….

    • wrong , we laughed at it when others called you names in response to you shilling , cause we’re making fun of how shitty your shilling attempts here are , so please keep it up it’s become the highlights of my mornings of recent to see a retard consistently make a fool of himself in a public forum and get laughed at for it 😀 ……

    • Real quick, i re-read your first post (and by the way, you launched the first insults) you said……”However, as these ‘chemtrails’ only exist in the delusional minds of conspiracy nutters, they cannot be sprayed, therefore the practice of spraying ‘chemtrails’ doesn’t exist” ……what did you mean when you said ‘they cannot be sprayed’?

    • Sure, the link to that specific document was just a trap. I guess that’s why you continue to use it in futile attempts to convince people your pathetic fantasies are truth, despite every said document (and every other bit of ‘proof’ you’ve provided) having been proven false.

    • The fact that you can’t understand the phrase ‘they cannot be sprayed’ speaks volumes about your lack of intelligence. Surely you’ll be able to find a six-year-old in your neighbourhood who will be able to explain it to you.

    • provide 1 post where i linked to that doc doing so after i linked it to you again and you did the research on it….oh wait you can’t cause you’re a butt hurt little retarded shill 😀 ….

    • LMAO. This is made by that Russ Tanner guy who claims to be able to smell 13 different types of “chemtrail” 5 minutes after he sees a contrail in the sky.

      Surely you’re not that gullible?

    • Of course Gary Olds is that gullible; he is, after all, a conspiracy nutter. Gullibility is one of the non-negotiable job requirements for their kind.

    • wow…child rape huh? YOU are the one saying these evil things. so its obviously you who thinks these things…these are dark disgusting thoughts that are running through YOUR mind. yet you come on here slagging others off for their beliefs and make out others to be ‘sick’… You wanna check yourself in pal before the kids get hurt! Jeroen Van Kiddyfiddler

    • Ah, another cowardly-anonymous hater who believes that insulting people is a mature way of having a discussion. I can only wonder what you have to hide…
      You may want to read all the vitriol that has come my way from that paranoid, delusional Alex Jones shill who cowardly hides behind the alias ‘iamli3.’ Then again, you probably know exactly what he’s been vomiting, because I suspect that you’re on and the same guy; you appear to use a whole bunch of aliases here.

    • oh noes , mean words spoken over the internets , tumbler help me! :c…..

      also maybe if you stopped acting like a retarded power structure creepy child raping shill , people wouldn’t be making so much fun of you for it LOL…..